This is in continuation of our blog post No. 135. यह, हमारे ब्लाग पोस्ट नं. १३५ के अगला भाग ఇది మన బ్లాగ్ పోస్ట్ నం. 135కి కొనసాగింపు. This blog post was made on 13th Feb. 2014 i.e. before 2014 Lok Sabha Elections, and before Mr. Narendra Modi became P.M. of INdia. In the blog post I raised a doubt on the M.A. degree of Shri Narendra Modi. I wrote that I had sent an email to Gujarat University requesting them to place the details of the PG Degree of their Chief Minister (Gujarat CM at that time) Shri Narendra Modi on their website. I also indicated that, unfortunately, there was no action and that there was no reply. There itself, I pointed out that Rollins College took pride to place on their website that Rahul Gandhi was their alumni.
ब्लाग पोस्ट नं. १३५, दिनांक १३.२.२०१४, लोक सभा चुनाव के पहले, श्री नरेंद्र मोडी प्रधान मंत्री बनने के पहले ही लिखा हुआ था। उस ब्लाग पोस्ट में, मै श्री नरेंद्र मोडी महाशय के ऎम. ऎ. डिग्री के विषय में मेरे संदेह को प्रस्ताव किया था। मै यह भी लिखा था कि, मै श्री गुजरात विश्वविद्यालय को, ई मॆयिल् द्वारा, श्री नरेंद्र मोदी के स्नातकोत्तर ऎम. ऎ. राजनीती विद्या विवरों के यूनिवर्सिटी वॆब सैट् पर रखने के लिया प्रार्धना किया था। लेकिन उनहोंने उस ई मॆयिल पर कुछ चर्या भी नहीं लिया। मेरे ई मेयिल को जवाब भी नहीं दिया। उस ब्लाग पोस्ट में ही मै यह भी पायिंट अवुट् किया कि, रोलिन्स कालॆज्, अमॆरिका, अपने वॆब सैट में श्री राहुल गांधी को अपने पूर्व विद्यार्धी कहते हुए, थोडे गर्व से ही, उस विषय को अपने वॆब सैट पर रखे थे।
ఈ 135 నం. బ్లాగ్ పోస్ట్ 13.2.2౦14 అంటే 2014 లోక్ సభ ఎన్నికల ముందే, అంటే శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోడీ గారు ప్రధాన మంత్రి కాక ముందే వ్రాయబడింది. ఆ బ్లాగ్ పోస్ట్ లో నేను శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోడీ గారి ఎమ్. ఎ. రాజకీయ శాస్త్రం డిగ్రీ గురించి కొంత అనుమానాన్ని వ్యక్తం చేశాను. శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోడీ గారి పీజీ విద్య వివరాలను శ్రీ గుజరాత్ యూనివర్సిటీ వారి వెబ్ సైట్లో పెట్టుకోమని శ్రీ గుజరాత్ యూనివర్సిటీ వారిని ఈ మెయిల్ ద్వారా విజ్ఞప్తి చేశాను. కానీ వారు ఏచర్యా తీసుకోలేదు, జవాబివ్వ లేదని కూడ వ్రాశాను. అదే బ్లాగ్ పోస్ట్ లో అమెరికాలో శ్రీ రోలిన్స్ కాలేజీ వారు శ్రీరాహుల్ గాంధీ తమ పూర్వ విద్యార్ధి అని సగర్వంగా పెట్టుకున్న విషయాన్ని ప్రస్తావించాను.
Click to go to blog post 135.
What is real and what is fake? असली क्या है, नकली क्या है ? ఏది అసలు ? ఏది నకిలీ ?
Foremost thing: Clarification. प्रप्रथम आवश्यकता : स्पष्टीकरण ప్రప్రథమంగా స్పష్టీకరణ
I have no LOVE OR HATE relationship with Shri Narendra Modi or Shri Rahul Gandhi or Shri Aravind Kejriwal or any other leader or party or religion. Whatever is written here, is written with the aim of searching for truth, and of course to promote my twin objectives of promoting atheism and Marxism (Total Socialism). There will be no dearth of integrity and sincerity. Mistakes, of course, will be taking place. You are always welcome to point out.
मुझे श्री नरेंद्र मोडी या श्री राहुल् गांधी या श्री अरविदं केज्रीवाल या किसी अन्य नेता या पार्टी या धर्म पर राग (प्रेम) या द्वेष नहीं है। सत्यान्वेषण मेरा लक्ष्य है। चित्त शुध्धी कम नहीं है। गलतीयों होते रहते है।
నాకు శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోడీ యందు గానీ, శ్రీ రాహుల్ గాంధీ యందు గానీ, శ్రీ అరవింద్ కేజ్రీవాల్ యందు గానీ, మరే ఇతర నేతలు, పార్టీలు, మతాల యందు గానీ రాగ ద్వేషాలు లేవు. కేవలం సత్యాన్వేషణ దృష్టితో మాత్రమే వ్రాయటం జరుగుతున్నది. చిత్త శుధ్ధిలో లోపం ఉండదు. తప్పులు జరుగుతూ ఉంటాయి. వాటిని మీరు స్వేఛ్ఛగా ఎత్తి చూప వచ్చు.
Million Dollar question now is whether our PM has studied M.A. Politics or not? प्रश्न यह है कि हमारे माननीय प्रधान मंत्री ऎम. ऎ. राजनीति शास्त्र पढा या नहीं ? తేలని ప్రశ్న ఏమిటంటే మన ప్రధానిగారు ఎమ్. ఎ. రాజనీతి శాస్త్రం చదివినట్లా, చదవనట్లా ?
Answer for this question is to be given by Shri Narendra Modi. He alone is the right person and capable person to answer it.
इस प्रश्न को समाधान देने केलिये सर्व समर्ध श्री नरेंद्र मोडी भी है। सही व्यक्ती वे ही है।
ఈ ప్రశ్నకి జవాబివ్వ గలసిన శక్తి కలిగిన వారు శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోడీ గారే. వారే ఈ విషయంలో, తగిన సమాచారాన్ని ప్రధానమంత్రిగారి వెబ్ సైట్ లో పెట్టిస్తే బాగుంటుంది.
A number of questions will arise in this connection. They pertain not only to Mr. Modi or Rahul Gandhi or Ms. Sonia Gandhi, but they relate to Indian Education System, Indian Political System, Public Administrative Law, Ethics, Psychology, Psychiatry, so on ... We can't cover all those in one blog post.
इस समय पर कई प्रश्न उठते हैं। वे, सिर्फ श्री मोडी दी श्री राहुल या सोनिया के बारे में नहीं होते हैं। भारतीय विद्या व्यवस्था, भारतीय राजकीय व्यवस्था, प्रजा पालन न्याय शास्त्र, नीती शास्त्र, मानसिक शास्त्र, मानसिक वैद्य शास्त्र, आदी आदी ... उन सब चीजों को हम एक ब्लाग में कवर नहीं कर सकते हैं।
It appears that Election Commission, and PMO has rejected an RTI application (Right to INformation Act) , for details of the M.A. Politics Degree of our beloved Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi. This seems very unreasonable, unless there are very very very strong reasons to conceal PM's Educational Qualifications. It is also strange that when I approached Gujarat University and Delhi University to place the details of the studies of Shri Narendra Modi in their Universities and Colleges (or Distance Education Schools). Strangely, they are silent. Actually, they should have taken pride, in placing the details on their website, and confirming that our PM is their highly esteemed alumni. It is how foreign Universities, and Indian Private Indian Colleges/Universities do their business. Though our Government Universities/Colleges are not businesses as such, this seems to be a harmless method to improve the image(s) of Colleges and Universiies.
Of course, there may be a hitch in this. Like the South Korea's first Woman Prime Minister who was sentenced by a court for two year jail, if our politicians get convicted (convicted/acquitted alternatively in appeals) and go to jail, the Universities / Colleges may suffer a face loss, at least temporarily. Then, they may have to adopt an opportunistic method, which is employed in most Indian States. When a CM loses an election and is replaced by a rival, immediately the outgoing CM's photos in Govt. Offices are removed and thrown into dustbins. The incoming man while ordering such fate to his predecessor, will not bother about that similar fate will await him after five years.
PRESENT POSITION AND PROBLEM प्स्तुत स्थिती और समस्या ప్రస్తుత స్థితి మరియు సమస్య
Entire internet, particularly Twitter is ablaze and agog with tweets expressing doubts about the Educational Qualifications of Shri Narendra Modi. I provide below a link to the twitter handle: इंटरनॆट् सभी, प्रत्येक ट्विट्टर जिस पर अपने प्रधान मंत्रीजी को बहुत शौक है, श्री नरेंद्र मोडीजी के विद्यार्हताओं के विषय में उत्तेजित, उद्विग्न और उद्वेगित है। मै एक वैसे ट्विट्टर हाष हैंडिल को यहाँ लिंक दे रहा हूँ। ट्विट्टर को जाने के लिये क्लिक्। అంతర్జాలం మొత్తం, ముఖ్యంగా శ్రీనరేంద్ర మోడీ గారికి అత్యంత ప్రియమైన ట్విట్టర్.కామ్, లో ఒక హ్యాండిల్ హాష్ లో కొన్ని వందల ట్వీట్లు ఉన్నాయి. దీనిలోని భారతీయులంతా ఎంతో శ్రీ నరేంద్రమోడీ గారి విద్యార్హతల విషయంలో ఎంతో ఉత్తేజితులు, ఉద్విగ్నులు అయి ఉన్నారు. డిగ్రీ దిఖాఓ పీఎమ్ సాబ్ హాష్ ,ట్విట్టర్ డాట్ కామ్ కి వెళ్ళటానికి క్లిక్. Click to go to https://twitter.com/hashtag/DegreeDikhaoPMSaab?src=hash.
There are hundred of tweets and comments.
Qustion, सवाल, ప్రశ్న:
What seems to have motivated and triggered the tweet-gens about PM's M.A. degree, after one year of his functioning as PM?
PMindia.gov.in Official Website on 16.3.2015 mentioned in PM's profile as under:--
"...Narendra Modi has achieved all this thanks to hard work and the values instilled in his childhood. Born on 17 September 1950 in a small town in Gujarat, he grew up in a loving but poor family ‘without a spare rupee’. The initial hardships of life not only taught the value of hard work but also revealed to him the avoidable sufferings of the common people. That is why as chief minister, he lived his life by the principle of ‘Antyodaya’, of serving the last person in the queue. From a very young age he immersed himself in service to the nation, working with patriotic organisations. He completed his MA from Gujarat University. ...
It proudly declared that PM completed his M.A. from Gujarat University.
Netizens and Tweeters might have got suspicious, after PMIndia.gov.in (might have temporarily) removed the mention about PM's completing his M.A. For some period PMIndia the website might have omitted, a line relating to PM's M.A. Degree. Netizens and Tweeters gave links to pmindia.gov.in webpage, which they seem to have believed that it will remain static and thinking that removal of the line pertaining to PM's PG degree as permanent. But that particular web page is dynamic, and content may be changing frequently.
It is what seems to have happened.
POSITION AS ON 22.08.2015. दिनांक २२.०८.२०१५ के स्थिति. 22.08.2015 ఈనాటి స్థితి.
Click to go to http://pmindia.gov.in/en/pms-profile/-- as on 22.08.2015..
This 22.08.2015 version says: "Shri Modi completed his MA in political science from Gujarat University.".
ybrao-a-donkey's humble views. I shall not insist that you agree with me. वैबीराव एक गधे के विनम्र वचन. आप मुझ से सहमत होने के निर्बंध नहीं है। వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు. నాతో ఏకీభవించమని మిమ్ములను వత్తిడి చేయను
About the degreedikhaopm hash tag: It is not clear why large number of tweeters who commented against Mr. Narendra Modi's M.A. qualification (treating it as fake without adequate proof), seem to belong to one religion as per their names. This ought not to have happened.
SOLUTION परिष्कार పరిష్కారం
PMIndia.gov.in website speaks greatly of transparency. Here are two quotes from the PMIndia's website:
"...Prime Minister Narendra Modi firmly believes that transparency and accountability are the two cornerstones of any pro-people government. Transparency and accountability not only connect the people closer to the government but also make them equal and integral part of the decision making process.
His strong resolve to transparency backed by the manner in which he put this commitment to practice indicates an era of open, transparent and people- centric government for the people of India.
It will be in the fitness of things, if PM's Office or the Election Commission places a xerox/scan of the Prime Minister's M.A. Politics Degree (or at least a Marks List, with details such as year of study, papers for which he appeared) on their website and make a public announcement so that the matter gets closed permanently.
The biggest unresolved question is whether even a single degree will be necessary for due discharge of a Prime Minister's duties. We have to see both sides of the coin.
PM will have dozens of advisors to counsel him on everything connected with Prime Minister's functions. When a PM has deep and wide knowledge of varioius subjects, he will be able to know whether his-her advisers were giving correct advice, whether they have the required competence or not. To a capable, diligent, energetic, knowledgeable, Prime Minister, -- bribetaking corrupt advisers/Members of committees and panels will hesitate to give false advice. They will be very careful, or else they will have to cut a sorry face before the PM, if PM detects their games.
A PM without such deep and wide insights into various subjects, cannot learn them instantaneously. Like Dhritarashtra, he has to affix his LTIs (using this word figuratively: A person not knowing a subject, if he-she affixes signature on a document, that signature will be as good as or as bad as a thumb impression) on the recommendations made by Advisors, and Committees. Even a genius requires extensive and intensive training, sometimes. For example, a person cannot sit in the cockpit of an Aircraft, and say "I am a genius. I can learn things instantaneously. There is nothing which will be beyond my comrehension. Even the subtlest things are within the reach of my understanding." . Then he-she cannot proceed to meddle with the buttons/keys/levers of an aircraft. His-her own life as well as the lives of passengers will be endangered.
Indians may not mind having even an illitersate PM, AS LONE AS HE-SHE IS HONEST, HARDWORKING AND EMPATHETIC TO POOR. But there seems to be some abhorrence against presenting fake degrees/qualifications (Yet to be proved in case of Mr. Modi). After all, we must keep in mind that obtaining an M.A. Politics degree is not a herculian task. It is a two year course. Every year there will be five papers. In each paper, ten essay type questions are given. Under the choice system, five questions are to be answered. In most Universities, it will be sufficient if a person gets 35 marks in each paper, and 40% on average of the five papers. That means, it will be sufficient if we know 1/3 of 1/2 of the total subject, i.e. 1/6th of the subject. There is no detention System. Hence, there is no hitch. I have a friend who has done three M.As. I have, myself, done in distant mode, two M.A.s after my retirement. In M.A. History I received a gold medal as a University topper. I am not writing this to boast. I wish to highlight, that as far as M.A.s are concerned, there should be no need for politicians to create fake degree certificates or buy degrees.
ABOUT PRESTIGIOUS FOREIGN COLLEGE DEGREES OF CELEBRITIES
U.K. Government seems to be drastically cutting the budgets of CAmbridge and Oxford Universities. Harvard also seem to be under some sort of pressure to make lucre, somehow. Worldwide, Universities seem to have become extremely crazy and hardpressed to earn moolah of their own, without seeking funds support from Governments. Hence, they seem to be hell-bent on maximising number of admissions, diluting requirements such as attendance, assignments, laboratory work, etc. etc. For diluting quantity and quality, subjects like Fashion Design, International Relations, (etc.) seem to come very handy. These degrees seem to be very much ornamental.
So, there will be no wonder, if large number of Indian celebrities flaunt foreign degrees from prestigious Colleges and Universities, who may covertly adopt two divergent policies of study discipline. For ordinary students, they will continue to insist on rigid discipline. For VIP and heavy donor students, official records may be created of fulfilling all the requirements for conferring a degree, without the student even attend the College / University classes or exams. Even if for political or other reasons, if some person/institution makes contacts them for verification/corroboration of the studies and the degree, they will confirm that the person has undergone all the rituals. This is a sort of gharana (ostentatious institutionalised) prostituion, in education arena. Nobody can correct these things. In Telugu language, there is a proverb : "kanceyE cEnu mEsina", the English meaning of which runs approx. "If the fence grazes the field instead of protecting it".
Question: Can't a genius like Calvin (Ref: Calvin and Hobbes Comic) think and act independently of his nannies, parents, and teachers?
Ans: Sometimes, the genius will be correct. Sometimes the advisors will be correct. Sometimes EXPERIENCE will win. Sometimes, NOVICES CAN TAKE ADVENTUROUS PATHS AND UNVEIL UNKNOWN methods and ways. We have to take into account a total picture of the problem and situation.
GIST
Simply because some foreign College/University is confirming, we should not convince ourself that Rahul's degree is genuine, and because Gujarat University / Delhi University are not coming forward, we should not declare that Mr. Modi's degrees are fake. In the ultimate analyses, their aptitude, diligence, efficiency, effectiveness, knowledge, organising, planning, skills, talent, hardwork, will decide their performance. Not degrees. At the most, this analysis will help us to assess how degrees are obtained from foreign Colleges / Universities and Indian Colleges /Universities.
Added on 26.08.2015
Here is a link to IndiaTVnews.com, report dated 11.08.2015, titled: "Narendra Modi’s degree row – Much Ado about nothing"Click to go to IndiaTVnews.com.
Observations of ybrao-a-donkey: This blog post of mine was made on 22.08.2015, without noticing the above IndiaTVnews report. Anyway, it will not make much difference in what I have written earlier. Reason: PMO may be technically justified in rejecting the RTI application of the Netizens. PMO may be legally right. But doesn't it have any ethical or moral obligations, to dispel the doubts in the minds of large number of its citizens? Besides, Netizens know that our beloved PM is very much publicity conscious, and twitter active (hyper-active???). Won't it, therefore, be in the fitness of things for the PMO to obtain the information sought by the Citizens at least now and make things very transparent, settle the issue FOR EVER? WHY keep things in suspended animation? Why does PMO want to hide behind a technicality, like some sundry petty Government Officials in some remote Taluk Headquarters in a backward State, who may not know the spirit (not only the letter of the law, but also the spirit of the law) of RTI legislation?
Now our learned TV News Channel has advised the anxious citizens to approach the Gujarat University or Delhi University. That probably, they will do, anyhow. Of course, the said Gujarat University, and Delhi University may find some other technical flaws in the RTI applications and reject again. Actually, the TV Channels and Print Media can also take some interest in this issue. Why they are hiding? They make lot of efforts about hundreds of things which are useless to the society, but profitable to them. Can't they make some genuine effort in ascertaining facts from the powers that be, and become the First Channel to publish it (may be genuine degree or some other degree, whatever it is, they should be facts)? Are they afraid that they cannot get the information? What stops them? What do they expect in return for their service?
Continuation of this post can be seen at post No. 743. Click to go to post No. 743.
(To continue. और लिखने का है। ఇంకా వ్రాయాల్సింది ఉంది.
514 Where from India borrow its phallus worship? भारत अपने लिंगाराधन संस्कृति को कहाँ से उधार लिया ? భారత్ తన లింగారాధన సంస్కృతిని ఎక్కడనుండి దిగుమతి చేసుకున్నది ?
Where did Mr. Narendra Modi stay, during his visit to UNO, New York? భారత ప్రధాని శ్రీనరేంద్రమోడీ గారు తన ఐ రా స , న్యూయార్కు యాత్రలో ఎక్కడ బసచేశారు? भारत के प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोडी महोदय अपने यू ऎन वो, न्यूयार्क यात्रा मे कहा रुके ?
