Friday, May 22, 2015

513 Part 4 (Final) of Tirumala Venkateswara, Vitthala , Vireswara भाग ४ तिरुमल श्री वेंकटेश्वर, विठ्ठल (पंधरपूर) और वीरेश्वर భాగం ౪ (ఆఖరు) శ్రీ వేంకటేశ్వర, విఠ్ఠల, వీరేశ్వర, భక్తవత్సల



Clarification: I am not a Christian Missionary. I am not here to convert people. As a matter of fact, I am against conversion of ignorant people from one religion to another, or from one sub-religion/culture to another sub-religion/culture.   Ours is a pluralist society, where we have to explore truth, within the confines of our limits, without hurting others.

If anybody feels, I have not provided correct information, or made a wrong or biased analyses, they are welcome to correct me by writing comments. I shall reply, to the best of my ability.

ఇంతకు ముందు వ్రాసిన మొదటి మూడు భాగాలకు లింకులు

Part 1:   http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/508

Part 2: http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/511

Part 3: http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/512

Part 4, final part: This post.

The relationship among the names of the deities Venkateswara, Vitthala, Veerabhadra (Veereswara) needs a close investigative study. Vijayanagara kings seem to have encouraged all the three Gods in temple complexes. Lepakshi Vitthal Temple is the best example for this type of combination of Gods.

Tirumala-Tirupati, according to my initial survey, appears to be a pastoral temple, i.e. a temple worshipped by cowherds-shepherds.

We shall take for a sample, this Wikipedia description of the "worship-services (sEvAs) at the temple. Link for those who wish to study the entire webpage: Click


Early in the morning, usually at around 2 AM, The 'sannidhi- golla ' (cowherd) will go to the residence of the archakas on the north side of Swami Pushkarini, the temple tank. The golla escorts the priests who have been allotted the duty in the sanctum sanctorum that day. The archaka would have by that time had his morning bath, completed his nitya-karmas, including worship of his own deity. He will then offer obeisance the key of the sanctum and proceed to the temple holding the key on his head, accompanied by paricharakas, temple paraphernalia and music of drums, bugles and horns. The ' golla ' will be holding a fireband in his hand, and when the priest has reached the main entrance of the temple. The cowherd would go back and bring the Jiyyangar or his representative, the Ekangin to the temple. The Jiyyangar or Ekangi will come carrying on their head a box, which contains one key (duplicate) and seals which establish their administrative right over the temple.

Meantime, the temple administration representative would have come there with one key. The system is triplicate lock system with archaka, Jiyyangar and temple authorities having one key each. The archaka will first symbolically place his key in the hand of the Dvarapalaka on the right of the Bangaru Vakili. The priest will do pranama to dvarapalakas near the Bangaru Vakili. Then he will take the key from the dvarapalaka and seal is broken and the doors of golden vakili will be opened by Sannidhi golla uttering suitable mantras by archakas. The 'golla' will go first in to the Sanctum Santorum and will have first Dharshan, then paricaraka, jeeyar & archaka will go in and a curtain is drawn over the entrance. The golla will light the oil lamps inside the sanctum, while the priests replace the idol of Bhoga Srinivasa who acted as Sayana bera, the idol who slept, the previous night. He would have been ceremonially put to sleep on an ivory bed, with a velvet mattress during Ekantaseva. He will be lifted from that cot and will be taken back to the sanctum to rest near the feet of the Dhruvabera on the left side. That place is known as Kautuka-sthana. The height of the icon gifted by Samarai, the Pallava Princess does not reach even the anklet of the Dhruvabera. But all worship in the sanctum is done to this idol. The cot and the mattress are removed to a room called Sabera, the Lord's closet, on the northern side of the Sanctum opposite the Hundi, after the recitation of Suprabhatam is completed.

Bangaru Vakili is a Telugu word which means 'golden doorway'. Here the two doors are massive and gilt with gold. One should not miss studying these two doors in detail as they depict rare forms of Vishnu, conforming to the Agamas. On one door all the ten avataras (incarnations) of the Lord are depicted. The other door depicts the Para, Vyuha and Vibhava deities viz. Kesava, Narayana, Madhava and so on. Meantime in the Mukha mantapa the devotees for the Suprabhata seva would have assembled. There will be priests outside who will start reciting suprabhatam, stotra, prapatti. Mangalasasana verses composed by Sri Prativadibhayankaram Annan. While inside the Bangaru Vakili the antarala the golla with his fireband (torch) would have lighted all the lamps. The ekangin would have lighted the Brahmakhanda and sara lamps.


The bold lettered word 'golla' = shepherd-cowherd. The above extract clearly shows that the cowherd is given paramount role, in the opening of the temple doors every morning, and in the commencement of the temple schedule. This cannot be without a strong reason.

Probable reason:

Ramanuja Vaishnavas might have taken possession of the temple, with the decree of Vijayanagara King Bukka Raya (See my post on Part 2), the pact called "Bukka Raya Pact" (Telugu: Bukka raya Sandhi).

Vijayanagara kings themselves had a pastoral cowherd/shepherd origin. They might have had a Yadava origin. Or a Kuruba/golla/kuruma origin. The shepherds/cowherds of Tirupati-Bellari-Rayachur-Pandharpur area (in other words the river valleys of Krishna, Tungabhadra, Bhima) have worshipped Veerabhadra an incarnation of Lord Shiva (also called Veereswara, Beerappa, Biroba, to some extent Khandoba).


The gradual transformation of the cowherds/shepherds/boyas-palegars of the area from Siva worship to VishNu worship, to keep in line with the Hoyasala and Vijayanagara Kings, is itself a great saga of evolution of sub-religions in South India.


Vijayanagara Kings realised that there was an imperative need to combine Shiva and Vishnu, so as to fight against the invading Delhi Sultans, Bahamanies and Moghuls. Vijayanagar King's Name "Harihara Raya" is one example of this desire. Vijayanagara kings protected Sravana Belagola Bahubali, provided general protection to jains, and seem to have obtained an exchange of Tirumala Temple from Jains, for use by Ramanuja and his Jiyyars.  

In the process, the two handed, one hand on hip, idol of Beerappa (Virabhadra) of the cowherds, was not allowed to be disturbed. The cowherds were also given a due recognition of their sacrifice of their temple, by being made "sannidhi golla" person to open the temple everyday.


But for the probable instruction of Vijayanagara Kings, the priests might have replaced the two-handed Viroba idol with a new four-handed conch-disc wielding VishNu, without serpant ornaments. There might not have been a need to cover the third eye of Veerabhadra with large white marks of VishNu on the forehead of Venkateswara. The Priests and the Jiyyars might have minimised the participation of gollas, in the daily morning opening ceremonies of the temple.

The use of chants of "Govinda" (Cowherd or Cow-protector, an invocation to Lord Krishna), also might have been an addition emphasise the importance given to the cowherds. Of course, there is a woven story of Srinivasa being given cow's milk when he was biding time in a snake-pit-hill. But that story does not stand reason.

These were my initial thoughts, even now they predominate my thinking.


In the quotation given above, the temple services give excess importance to "Jiyyars", whereas the temple reflects a pluralist integrated picture of four or more traditions Buddha-Jaina-cowherd-Saiva-Vaikhanasa VaishNava-Pancharatra (Ramanuja-Jiyyar) VaishNava.  

Pancharatra and Vaikhanasa are two participants in this multi-cultural temple, but they cannot try to obliterate others gradually.  Govt. of Andhra Pradesh ought try to maintain a delicate balance among these multi-cultures.  Instead, it seems to be  more interested in making TTD a political azylum for post-seekers and even liquor merchants!

Government should concentrate more on making the Temple accessible to everybody right from the poorest-of-the-poor in the society to the rex. We see the Governor of Andhra Pradesh visiting the temple more than 38 times, some times more than twice a day, resulting in unavoidable inconvenience to the ordinary pilgrims.


The Vitthala temple complex at Lepakshi (Anantapuram District), to the best of my knowledge, contains all the three Gods, in the same premises, or in the surroundings. The temple was said to have been built by a lieutenant of Vijayanagara Kings. He was originally said to be a Veerappa (Birappa or Biroba) devotee, who had to change to Vitthala-Krishna wing, without parting with his pastoral god "Veerappa".

Question: What may be the difference among idols of Shri Venkateswara, Veerabhadra, Veereswara, Viroba and Vitthal (Panduranga)?

Ans: Shri Venkateswara idol at Tirumala is apparently not having four hands. But Veerabhadra idols all over India, mostly have four hands, in line with the Indian formal Gods, having more than two hands (they have to kill enemies). Veereswara seems to be midway between Veerabhadra and Viroba (Biroba). Viroba, Biroba and Vitthala (Pandu Ranga of Pandharpur) have two hands only. This is because, they are pastoral Gods of cowherds.

I still had a hunch that the idol of the mulavar (main deity) of Lord Shri Venkateswara, might not have been the original idol(s) worshipped by Jains, Buddhists, Veerabhadra Saivaites, local cowherds, and the Beerappa-Biroba of Karnataka-Maharashtra right upto the Vitthala of Pandharpur.  It might have been substituted by a VaishNava idol during the Bukka period itself.


Some videos are available on the U-tube, claiming to show the bathing and dressing of the Original deity of Tirumala Venkateswara, saying that they were extracted from a Video released by TTD in 1970's. Initially, I was suspicious that they were made by fly-by-night operators to maximise views and visitors, and thought that they might have been amply tampered with to suit their needs. Yet, I wanted to have a look at them, howsoever, restitched they may be. I selected a very short video of one minute, as my mobile net connection cannot endure the strain of receiving larger streams.

I am giving a link to one such video. But I am not recommending it as a perfect evidence for our readers or asking them to believe whatever the video purported to show. Click

This black & white video seems to have three stages. 1. While water was being poured on the idol. It appeared to me like Murugan / or a female Goddess idol. Though the conch and disc were visible in bright white color, I felt that it was a silver/gold plated silver attachment, which might not have been removed, or which might have been fixed on two small bulges on the stone idol.

2. The second stage frames contain an added white cotton garment covering the waist, chest across from left to right. There is also a white crown. The lean, downward stretched hands didn't apparently contain any serpant jewels. The lean person looked like a male religious preacher.

3. Then, the frames move quickly into the third vision, a black and white image of the God with all decorations. Suddenly, the idol becomes tall, head also becomes bigger.

It became very difficult for me to make any meaningful deduction as to whether it was Jain / Buddhist / Murugan / Devi / Veerabhadra / cowherd pastoral God / VaishNavaite.

Bewildered, then I went for another Google search of images of God's idols in India, for any idol which closely resemble the idol of Tirumala Venkateswara mulavar (principal deity). At last, I could fall upon a Vishnu Temple in Madurai, Tamil Nadu, with name "Bhaktavatsalam Perumal Temple". Here is the website which contains a photo of the idol in Bhaktavatasalam Perumal. Click

I owe my sincere thanks to Mr. Jaideep Prabhu, who uploaded the photo, together with an explanatory note, about architecture and the sculpture of the temple -- for giving me a temporary respite from the inner turmoil I am going through about Shri Venkateswara.
Click


The Bhaktavatsala perumal's idol is very lean, hands almost similar to the position of hands of Lord Venkateswara in the video. The only difference seems to be Conch and Disc. The Madurai idol has the conch & disc., while Venkateswara's idol does not appear to have. A perusal of the videos in circulation on the U Tube show one lean image of Lord with a cotton garment with no garlands, gold chains, numerous ornaments studded with gems, etc. This Video, and the  BhaktaVatsala Perumal's image by and large agree.

One thing has become clear from the above comparison. The current Venkateswara idol prima facie belongs to the VaishNava culture, in spite of not having conch and Disc. The idol might have been brought from Srirangam / Madurai area by Shri Ramanuja to Tirupati, in an incomplete stage of completion by a sculpture of South Tamil Nadu, owing to some urgency and compulsion. More evidence is needed to support this hypothesis, but we may not rule it down altogether at this stage. The prior existing idols/deities belonging to Jain /Buddhist / Saiva-Veerabhadra-Veereswara / Viroba-Biroba-Vitthala / cowherd cultures might have been moved to some other temples nearby, and smaller temples might have been built there.

Will Marxism (in your fantasy "Complete Socialism") close all temples, if Complete Socialism is implemented?

Ans: It is an ideal situation, and ideal solution.   But it will not happen, because people are gullible. People live on desires, ambitions and even greed. People live on apprehensions, fears, sometimes extending upto panick.

First,   people need a paradigm shift in their intellect (mEdha and buddhi) and analytical powers (viSlEshaNA Sakti). Either people have to learn these on their own, or somebody has to assist them, patiently, without forcing them.


Humans behaviors are peculiar, and often inexplicable. People accept many things on their own quite voluntarily without anybody prodding them, provided they believe that by going for a change they will benefit. Purchase of mobile phones, bikes, chudidars in the place of cumbersome sarees, haircuts, shaving, come under this category. (To be continued. Incomplete, as this blog post is becoming very lengthy).

Last but not the least, whether proper or improper, I shall write some personal experiences and views, as conclusive remarks:



ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

I started this -Part 1 to Part 4- posts on Tirumala Venkateswara, when I had a trigger while thinking about KCR replacing Potti Sriramulu's name for Telugu University with Suravaram Pratapa Reddy's name, as if TRS Government is not going to start any new institution in Telangana in the near future.

Apart from Suravaram Pratapa Reddy's book "Social History of Andhras", I was deeply influenced by Alex Haley's breath-taking hair-rising book "Roots" which had its theme in an African-American trying to trace his origins four centuries back by visiting Africa.


While reading Haley's book "Roots" in 1982 August  on a midday, when a historic full solar eclipse took place, I had an idea that I should also investigate about my ancestors who lived during Vijayanagara period, Srinatha Potana period etc.   In Late Suravaram's book, I could catch hold of a verse of Srinatha, which somewhat gives an impression about my ancestors. About this, I shall write separately. This blog post is becoming lengthy.

As far as relevant to Tirumala Venkateswara and Veerabhadra, Gurappa, we shall discuss now, something autobiographical:--

In our clan (ybrao-a-donkey's clan), every generation, at least one male progeny had name of Venkateswara (or its equivalent), female progeny had name of Padmavathi or Manga tAyAru.

In 1963-64, weddings of my younger paternal uncles took place. Immediately after the ceremony, in the pendal, two of my relatives had God Venkateswara on their bodies (a sort of auto-speaking), and reminded them about performing "Veerabhadra paLLems" and "Gurappa PongaLLu", which was a customary tradition of our clan, during marriages, but ignored by my parental generation.

Immediately, those present there, broke some coconuts to God Venkateswara and God Veerabhadra, lighting some incense sticks, performing some camphor hArati, and pacified the sufferers. Thinking that a mistake was made during the marriage, my grand-father, father and uncles arranged for the Veerabhadra worship and Gurappa worship.

I was studying IX standard at that time.

These Veerabhadra paLLems involved worship of Lord Veerabhadra, with great devotion, the customs including piercing cheeks with knives, tread-ing with nail-bearing footwear, walking on fire etc., singing songs of glory of the God. Gurappa Pongals involved preparation of some special foods for Lord Gurappa, it also involved some bhajan worship procedures. I am unable to recollect.

I was keenly interested in history, during my student days, my mind always revolving around Sri Krishna Deva Raya, Durga Das of Rajasthan, Sambhaji (Sivaji's son), Tanisha et al. What gave me my greatest wonder for several months was, what was the connection between Venkateswara and Veerabhadra. Answer, I could find after about 50 years in 2015.

Another experience
My marriage was held in 1975. No Veerabhadra pallem and Gurappa pongali worship were performed. I was not an atheist at that time, but there were some doubts lingering within my mind, about God and his-her existence. My wife who was a staunch devotee of Sri Venkateswara at that time 1975, and even now in 2015, requested for a visit, with wedding clothes, to Jamalapuram Venkateswara Temple, in Khammam District, Telangana State*, before starting a new life.


In our clan, it is a custom, to make bride and bride grom to "fast" on the night previous to marriage. Our marriage was held at midnight (Night marriages is a bane in A.P.).   Hungry and sleepless, I was very tired. Yet, there was no alternative, we had to go to Jamalapuram.

This place is very near even to Vijayawada on Bza-Kazipet line after Kondapalli Station, we have to alight at Errupalem Station and catch an auto to North-East, 15 km. This temple is on a very small hilluck. We climbed the stairs. As soon as we entered the temple, inexplicably, I had a hysteric-stance, and mumbled something which they could not understand. As usual, they broke a coconut, lighted incense sticks, burnt camphor hArati. I was pacified.

Next few months, I spent on recollecting what could have/might have happened to me on the hillock in Jamalapuram. I came to a conclusion, that as I was physically and mentally tired, some mumbling might have taken place owing to some emotional disequilibrium.

Around 1983, I took my family to Tirupati-Tirumala. By that time, I became an atheist. But my wife wanted tonsuring of my children to take place at Tirumala. As a part of accommodative pluralism, I took them to Tirumala. At that time, when I entered the sanctum sanctorum of Tirumala Venkateswara, I tried to consciously gauge what was happening to me. Nothing was felt. The deity appeared to me like a material object. (In my 1973 circa visit to Tirumala, I had felt some subliminal divine experience). In 1973, 1983 also, TTD staff used to push people in the queue to move ahead, but push not as vigorously as probably in 2015.

Viewed retrospectively, my analyses: In 1973 I had some divine experience because probably I had faith in the deity, probably there was some strong smell of incenses being burnt, there were Govinda Govinda words everywhere around.


Many times I accompanied my wife and children to temples, and used to be present when they prayed God/Goddesses, though I myself did n't pray. I used to watch them, and the priests.

 "My not folding hands" annoyed the priests, and on the advice of my family members, I started acting like a customary devotee, moving my lips with folded hands, take tulasi/bilva water with reverence.


But one unfortunate day, some years back, before the temple's reconstruction, at Annavaram Satyanarayana Swamy Temple, I found a priest at a sub-temple in the premises, putting something in his loin-cloth and moving out in a suspicious manner.   He was sure that others were not watching him.  There were no CC cameras in those days.  But he forgot to remember that, his own employer Lord Annavaram Satyanarayana Swami, was watching him.


From that day, I stopped entering into Temples, even when I accompany my relatives. I take them only upto a certain point and send them inside, wait till they come back.

Around 2012, I was asked by my father to take him to Lord Jamalapuram Venkateswara.   As there was nobody else to take him there, quite unwillingly, I took him there. At the entry ticket purchase counter, when enquired the rate, I was told to pay Rs. 40 for 2 tickets, @Rs.20/- per ticket, which was quite high. Anyway, as I do not go deep into temples, I bought one ticket only and sent my father inside.

The booking clerk there, I do now know why, changed his mind, and said: "I shall allow you to inside freely without buying ticket. Pl. go inside."

I did not want to go FREE, without buying ticket.

Seeing my unwillingness, he said: "Why are you not going? Are you a Christian Missionary?"

Then I said: "God, if at all he exists, is said to be omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent (भगवान, निर्वचन के अनुसार, अगर रहे तो, वे, सर्वांतर्यामी, सर्व ज्ञानी, स्रव शक्तिशाली, है)(దేవుడు అనేవాడు నిర్వచనం ప్రకారం ఉంటే సర్వాంతర్యామి, సర్వ జ్ఞాని, సర్వ శక్తిశాలి). If I apply my mind, he will appear on the screen of my mind, whether I pray from here, or pray from inside your temple."

To clear his doubt that I might have been a Christian Missionary, I purchased a ticket of Rs. 20/-, and climbed the stairs, and went to join my father.

This time, I saw the idol of the God Venkateswara in an inquisitive manner. There were no divine experiences. If I happen to go to Jamalapuram again, I shall study whether the sculpture of the main deity or other deities, have any resemblances to Veerabhadra. I believe that the principal idol of the temple might have been changed during the renovation (नवीकरण, పునర్ నిర్మాణం) of the temple.

I got the marriages of my sons performed as per Hindu customs, as desired by my sons, with a condition that my part will be very limited, like a guest artist in a film. I did not tell them about the custom of Veerabhadra Pallems and Gurappa Pongalis, in our clan. They went to Tirumala and Jamalapuram many times. To know whether they had divine experiences or not, I believe, is not my business to enquire.


To be re-written correcting errors. संसकरण करने का है। తప్పులు దిద్దుతూ తిరగ వ్రాయాలి. (To continue).

Wednesday, May 20, 2015

512 Part 3 of Tirumala Venkateswara, Veerabhadra, Neminatha भाग ३ तिरुमल वॆंकटेश्वर, वीरभद्र, नेमीनाथ భాగం ౩ తిరుమల వెంకటేశ్వర, వీరభద్ర, నేమీనాథ.



Link to Part 1 of this post:
Click to go to post No.508
Link to Part 2 of this post: http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/511


Question: You have not written anything about the claims that Tirumala Venkateswara idol and temple relate to Lord Murugan, who is also said to have been called as "bAla" in North India, and also about the claims of Shakti worshippers that Tirupati idol belongs to that of "bAla Tripura Sundari", another name for Mother Goddess. "bAlAji", name used for Shri Tirumala Venkateswara, actually refers to Mother Goddess "BAla tripura sundari", one of the nine forms of Goddess Durga.

Telugu language: శ్రీ తిరుమల వేంకటేశ్వరుడి మూర్తి బాల సుబ్రహ్మణ్యేశ్వరుడిది కానీ (బాల మురుగన్), బాలా త్రిపురసుందరి ది కానీ అయి ఉండచ్చు అనే అభిప్రాయం ఉంది. ఉత్తర భారత్ లో శ్రీ వేంకటేశ్వరుడిని బాలాజీ అని పిలవటం అందరికీ తెలిసిందే. దీని గురించి మీరేమీ వ్రాయలేదు. కేవలం వీరభద్రుడికి, జైనానికి, బౌధ్ధానికి మాత్రమే పరిమితమయ్యారు.


REPLY जवाब జవాబు

The word "bAla" has two connotations based on its meaning as "young, child". Lord kArtikEya was also known as bAla Subrahmaniyam (also bAla murugan), and Goddess Durga is also known as bAla tripura sundari. "ji" is a suffix of courtesy in Hindi language. In Telugu, these titles are "gAru, vAru". The name "bAlAji" should, therefore, definitely mean either Bala Subrahmanyam (Lord kArtikEya) or Goddess bAla tripura sundari (another name for durga). The question, why the North Indians call "VenkaTEsvara" as "bAlAji" is worth investigating into. It, definitely, is not by accident or by randomisation. At sometime, this temple might have been a place of worship for either bAla kArtikEya or bAla tripura sundari, or even both .

బాలా అనే పదానికి రెండు సూచ్యార్ధాలు కనిపిస్తున్నాయి. చిన్న, చిరు యవ్వన అనేవి. బాల సుబ్రహ్మణ్యం, బాల మురుగన్ మొ|| పదాలను చూడండి. దుర్గ యొక్క రూపాల విషయంలో బాలా త్రిపుర సుందరి అనే దేవీ నామం మనకు సుపరిచితం. బాలా అనే పదానికి , జీ అంటే గారు అనే గౌరవ వాచకాన్ని తగిలిస్తే బాలాజీ అవుతుంది. బాలాజీ అర్ధం బాలాత్రిపుర సుందరి గారు లేక బాల మురుగన్ గారు అనే వ్యవహారం కొన్నేళ్ళయినా ఉండి ఉండాలి. లేకపోతే, ఉత్తర భారతీయులు వేంకటేశ్వరుడిని , వేంకటేశ్వరుడనే వ్యవహరించటం జరిగేది. బాలాజీ అనే పదం ఆకాశం నుండి ఊడిపడదు. ఇది యాదృఛ్ఛికంగానో, లాటరీ లాగానో జరిగి ఉండటం కుదరనిది. ఏదో ఒక కాలంలో బాల కార్తికేయుడు, బాల మురుగన్ లేక బాలా త్రిపురసుందరి అనే పేర్లతో ఇక్కడ పూజ జరిగి ఉండాలి.

Ans: There are some indications, but these may not be adequate to come to a conclusion.

1. Shakti temples seem to have significant number of lions on pillars, dome, door-panels, walls, etc. Tirumala temple too seem to have. దేవీ ఆలయాల విమానాలమీద, గోపురాలమీద, దేవీ వాహనమైన సింహాలకు అధిక ప్రాధాన్యం ఉంటుంది. పై చిత్రంలో చూడండి, శ్రీవేంకటేశ్వర దేవాలయ విమానంపై ఉన్న సింహాలను. దీనిని నరశింహ స్వామి అనే వారు ఉండవచ్చు.

2. In Tirumala deity is bathed with turmeric on Fridays. This is a custom in Shakti temples. శుక్రవారం నాడు దేవతా విగ్రహాలను పసుపుతో కడగటం, ఇది నారీ దేవతలకు కద్దు. తిరుమలలో శ్రీ వేంకటేశ్వరుడికి కూడ జరుగుతున్నది.

3. It appears that South Indian kArtikEya is depicted as kaTinyasta pANi (one who has his hand near lower waist). Tirumala Venkateswara's idol seems to fulfil this. కార్తికేయుడు కటి న్యస్త పాణి (నడుము పై చేతులు వేసుకునే దైవము.)

4. It also appears that temples of Mother Goddess, by whatever names they are called, mostly have a kaTi vilambita mudra (waist slightly bent and a hand resting on it). Tirumala Venkateswara's idol seems to fulfil this. నడుము పై కొద్దిగ హొయలు ఓరగా నిలబడటం, నడుము క్రింది భాగంపై చేయివేసుకుని అభయ ముద్ర ఇవ్వటం, ఇది తమిళనాడు దేవీ ఆలయాలలో ఎక్కువగా ఉన్నట్లు కనిపిస్తుంది.

5. Matted hair is a common trait both among Shiva & Shakti clan (includes Skandha, Virabhadra) idols, whereas this is not found in VaishNava temples. Tirumala Venkateswara's idol seems to fulfil this. శివ (అంశ అయిన వీరభద్రుడితో సహా), శక్తి, కార్తికేయ, సాంప్రదాయాల్లో ఉంది. వైష్ణవంలో తక్కువ.

6. Serpants as jewels is a Saivaite trait. నాగాభరణాలు శైవ మరియు శాక్తేయ ఆచారాల్లో ఉంది. వైష్ణవంలో కనపడదు.

7. Human women, and women Goddesses wear toe-rings, gold chains,. Tirumala Venkateswara's idol seems to fulfil this. భారత్ లో స్త్రీలు ధరించే మెట్టెలు, కాలి కడియం, గొలుసులు మొ|| మహిళా నగలు శ్రీవేంకటేశ్వరుడికి పెట్టే ఆచారం ఉండటం వల్ల మొదట ఇది నారీ దేవత అనగా బాలా త్రిపుర సుందరి అనే అభిప్రాయం కలుగక మానదు.

8. Abscence of conch & disc, essential for Vishnu statues. (Story of lending them to King Thondaman). Gold conch & disc are added to the stone idol. మూలవిరాట్ శిలా విగ్రహంపై శంఖ చక్రాలు చెక్కినట్లుగా లేరు. వాటిని బంగారంతో తయారు చేయించి అమర్చటాన్ని గమనించవచ్చు.

9. Tonsuring of head is said to be a common tradition of Murugan (KartikEya) temples in South India. Tirumala Temple has this practice. కేశ ఖండనలు ఆర్యులైన (నా అభిప్రాయం ప్రకారం) వైష్ణవులకు, శైవులకు మొదటినుండి అలవాటులేదు. అది మొదట కార్తికేయ భక్తులకు అంటుకొని, మురుగదేవాలయాల్లోకి వచ్చి ఉంటుంది (ఉదా పళని). శిరో ముండనాన్ని, వారు బౌధ్ధులనుండి, జైనులనుండి నేర్చుకున్నట్లు కనిపిస్తుంది. నీలా దేవి, గాయపడి తన శిరస్సుపై రక్తస్రావ ప్రదేశంలో కేశాలను కోల్పోయినందు వల్ల నీలాదేవి తన తలనీలాలను ఇచ్చింది, కాబట్టి అందరు కేశఖండన చేసుకుంటున్నారు అన్నది ఒక వివరణలాగా ఉన్నది.

10. Margasi festival (Festival during Margasira month, Agrahayana) is said to be a Saivaite custom. Tirumala Temple has this practice. మార్గశిర మాసపూజలను జరపటం.

11. Worship with bilva leaves is a Saivaite practice. Tirumala Temple has this practice. బిల్వ పత్రాలతో పూజించటం.

12. Performance of brahmOtsavams (annual festival, in the name of Creator) during Durga Puja days. దుర్గ పూజ నవరాత్రులలోనే బ్రహ్మోత్సవాలను జరపటం.



ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

This temple seems to have been controlled by all the four sects i.e. Jains, Saivaites, ShaktEyas, KartikEya, and finally has come under the control of Vaishnavas with Bukka Raya and subsequent Vijayanagar kings, Nayaka Kings.

This temple originally seems to have belonged to Shepherds (gollas and kurubas-kurumas ), in other words a pastoral and folk temple. This aspect will be taken up in Part 4.


 (To continue).

Monday, May 18, 2015

511 Part 2 of Tirumala Venkateswara, Veerabhadra, Neminatha भाग २ तिरुमल वेंकटेश्वर, वीरभद्र, नेमीनाथ, భాగం 2 తిరుమల శ్రీవేంకటేశ్వర, వీరభద్ర, నేమీనాథ.



Clarification: No illwill intended against any caste/community/sect/sub-religion/cult/clan/religion. Kindly tolerate and bear with me.

In the part I, (post No. 508), I have quoted from the book of Shri Survarapu Pratapa Reddy, Social History of Andhras, and from Shripati panditA, a Kakatiya period author i.e. 12th and 13th Century author of Srikara BhAshyam. From that evidence, there was an indication, that Venkateswara's idol and temple at Tirumala-Tirupati was a Veerabhadra Temple. Veerabhadra was another form of Lord Shiva.

Link to Part 1: http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/508.



STORY OF VEERABHADRA
The story of Veerabhadra is a part of Daksha's Sacrifice. Story Briefly: Daksha was first father-in-law of Lord Shiva. Daksha's daughter was 'Sati'. Sati married Shiva, against the wishes of her father. Once when Daksha came, Shiva didn't get up, though he was a son-in-law, and was expected to show courtesy towards his father-in-law. Daksha took it as an insult to him from his son-in-law, and commenced a big sacrifice, to which he didnot deliberately invite Shiva. Daksha's daughter, much against the wishes of her husband Shiva, attended the sacrifice, uninvited. Daksha, seeing his daughter, uninvited got furious. An oral verbal altercation took place between them, and unable to bear insult from her father, Sati self-generated a fire (this is called yoga - agni) and self-immolated herself. Hearing of the untimely death of his wife, Shiva came to the sacrificial arena. Seeing the ghastly scene at Daksha's place, Shiva got enraged, plucked a small hair from his head and dropped it on the ground, from which arose the Great God Veerabhadra. Veera = warrior, valiant; bhadra = secure. Veerabhadra beheaded Daksha. Broke the teeth of Lord Vishnu. Subdued every God present there, including Brahma and Indra. At the request of sages and Daksha's wailing wife, Veerabhadra fixed a goat's head to Daksha's neck and revived him. From then, Daksha did not disrespect Shiva. What happened to Shiva then, is a separate longer story.

Question: There is a claim, that Tirumala Tirupati Venkateswara Temple belonged to Jains. This discussion, you can see at: Click .

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Ans: The discussion there, seems to have a little unilaterality in it. For example, they have not mentioned about Veerabhadra. This seems to be because, the blogger seems to be a Jain follower. The blog attracted 43 comments, most of which supported him.

One of such comments by one reader by Shri Krishna Rao S.T. is valuable and worth examining, I am quoting it:-

Krishna Rao. S T said... i am Hindu historian I ve read a old inscription named "bukkaraya sandi" available with archaeological dept. Karnataka. (you can visit city central library at bangalore for the copy)This is originally an agreement between jains and vaishnavas in 14th century stating jains have to leave thirumala neminath temple to vaishnavas and vaishnavas will not destroy Shravanabelagola bahubali statue as a good gesture. otherwise king buukkaraya (one of the founder of vijayanagar Empire?)will punish all jains in his kingdom ..... June 26, 2012 at 4:21 AM

Buddhist Shrine?



There is also another claim. Here is a link to a pdf book which says that "Tirupati Balaji was a Buddhist Shrine, by K. Jamanadas". This book has some quotations from Late Shri B.R. Ambedkar.
Click to download pdf book


ybrao a donkey's comment about Tirupati Temple being a Buddhist shrine: This book needs in depth studies. Prima facie the arguments given in the book, as far as Tirumala-Tirupati are concerned, do not provide things of solid evidence. ‎

ybrao a donkey's comment about Tirupati shrine being a JAIN / Buddhist shrine


I could not procure a copy of the Bukkaraya Sandhi, mentioned to have seen by Shri Krishna Rao above, either from Archaeology Dept., Karnataka, or City Central Library, Bangalore. I request any of interested readers to upload a scanned copy of this Bukkaraya Sandhi to internet, and place a link to it, in the comments section below.

The explanation that Tirupati Jain Neminath Temple was handed over to Ramanuja Vaishnavas, in exchange for royal patronage and protection to Shravana Belagola GomaThEswar Temple is understandable.


But the idol of Shri Venkateswara does not seem to have the features of a Jain idol , whereas it seems to have features of a Shaiva idol-- viz. third eye, serpant, hairlocks, a Shiva linga below hands. TTD authorities have prohibited photography or video-filming in the sanctum sanctorum.


 The priests seem to attribute a funny reason: A photographed, the idol loses its divine protective qualities. This does not appear to stand reason. All over the country, most prayer houses allow photographs and video-filming of the chief idol/shiva lingam of the temple. None of them seem to suffer any gain or loss from the photographs and video-filming. Recently, I have seen one such live TV relay of the proceedings of the bathing ceremony of Lord Vishwanath, Kasi (Varanasi).

Humans are not losing their powers of intellect or any other capabilities, faculties when they get photographed.  How can then Gods, who are supposed to be superhuman, lose their powers by human actions?


Human can neither empower Gods or un-power Gods, if Gods exist conforming to  the general definition of Gods as creators-protectors-and destroyers of all the cosmos, including humans.   Humans are too small-a-fry(ies) to empower Gods.  This idea, we can probably apply even to samprokshaNams (cleansing a place with sacred water and sacred chants) during grahaNams (eclipses).



By not agreeing to photo/video of the original deity or at least to show it to an Independent Committee, the Temple Administration, Priests, Monks will be giving room to believe that the claims of Jains, Buddhists, Saivaites could be true.


Just as "the richest person" does not mean the "greatest person" in the world, "richest God" need not mean the "Greatest God".


Of course there is no definition of Greatness. It is an attribute which has no dimensions, form, color, smell etc. and defies definition. 


We have to keep in mind that, except one or two scriptures, other scriptures do not have any references to God Venkateswara.  Most scriptures refer only to VishNu, his ten incarnations (why Venkateswara was not included as the 10th incarnation in the place of Kalki?) , Siva and many other deities, but never to Lord Venkateswara (Veerabhadra is also not very popular in many scriptures and in many temples of India, including Siva and Shakti temples).


COVERING FOREHEAD OF SHRI VENKATESWARA WITH VERY LARGE V OR U SIGN
The forehead of the deity is always covered with VishNu's nAmam (V or U sign). Chest is also, always covered with many ornaments. Besides, the idol does not contain the essential features of traditional Vishnu idols found all over the country. Particularly, the Conch (Sankham) and Disc (Chakram) are conspicuous by their absence in the original stone idol.  These two are being added by getting them made with gold.


EXPLANATION STORY FOR ABSENCE OF CONCH & DISC (SANKHAM & CHAKRAM)
A book by name Venkatachala Mahatmyam SAYS, that Venkateswara gave his weapons to King TonDaman, to enable them to use against his (Tondaman's)  enemies.


This story does not appear to be tenable, because of questions like

a) Do Gods need weapons like disc, at all?  Gods by their very thoughts, they should be able to destroy enemies including Malik Kafer, Mohammed Ghazni, Mohammed Ghori,  Ghiyazuddin Tuglack, Robert Clive, Warren Hastings, Bussey, Vasco De Gama.  No need to send discs.


b) Even if Gods want to give some weapons to their devotees, and Gods need weapons, such weapons can be "multi-present", i.e. present at several places at a time, like Lord Krishna who was said to have simultaneously resided in the gynesia of all his eight wives!


Yoga VASishTham also speaks of , one soul taking rebirth in two different bodies (one soul need not confine itself to only one body.).    Same way one weapon need not confine itself to only one place.

If this argument is not correct, what Lord Venkateswara would have done, had Muslims invaded his temple during Malik Kafer period or during Vijayanagara period?  Would he have run to Tondaman, keeping the Muslims waiting at the Main Gate,  entreating Tondaman to return his conch and disc or alternatively defend the Temple?




TTD authorities, if they believe in the concept of Satyam (truth and dharmam), have to, at least once show a washed  bare and unadorned idol of the God to a Committee of independent- respectable persons, which includes one representative from Saiva culture, one representative from Buddhist culture, one representative from Jaina culture. This verification, will once for all, close all imaginary hypothetical questions.


Right now, I can present one view: Near Tirupati, there is a great place called Kancheepuram, which includes a Shiva Kanchi, a VishNu Kanchi, and a Jaina Kanchi, a Triveni Sangamam like confluence of all the three cultures. There is a temple called Tiruparutikundram, Jina Kanchi on the South-Western peripheries of Kancheepuram. This place has Jain temples for Chandraprabha and Vardhaman Mahavir. At this place, there might have existed a temple for the 22nd Tirdhankar Neminath also. Tirupati might not have been a Jain Temple.

Another possibility:  As Jain culture was a non-violent culture, Saivaites might have occupied the shrine and installed a statue of Veerabhadra in the place of Neminath.  But this possibility may not be correct, because the Tirupati Temple structure, sculpture, do not reflect a Jain culture.

Note: This is not a devotional blog. No need of praising me. Abuses are welcome. (To continue, with more information).


TAIL PIECE
As per news reports, The Chief Information Commissioner or the concerned Union Ministry, are said to be unable to define the words "Satyam" (Truth) and Isvar (or Eswar) (Supreme God), in response to a query under RTI Act. The Chief Information Commissioner, as per the reports, is said to have re-asked the question to the applicant, who also could not define it. Strange , isn't it?



ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

Of course law may not be able to define Satyam and Isvar.  But then, according to Jurisprudence, the duty of the Court is to find out truth!  Lawyers are also employees of court to assist it, though paid for their services by clients.  They are not employees of court.  Mr. Madabhushi Sridharacharya is a reputed Lawyer and was a Law Professor.   He has to clarify how, a Court will find truth, without having a definition of Satyam (truth?).

Truth and Facts do not vary.  Facts are part of the Satyam, and they constitute the truth (Satyam).  Therefore, it may not be correct to say that Satyam-truth is not definable.  Probably Isvar (God) may not be definable.  But for the purpose of analyses, we can take the generally accepted definition of God , all over the world.  Actually there are not many disputes about the definition of God.  There are disputes about whose God is great, and whose God is pagan, and who are KAffirs, mlechchas.
 

Both Satyam and Iswar are same. "Sat" means what is eternal, permanent, and everlasting.  Iswar is a part of the Satyam.  Iswar cannot be independent of Satyam.  By its indestructibility, Satyam becomes capable of including Isvar in itself.  If Isvar holds all the worlds in his tummy (this is figurative usage)--Isvar has no tummy, Satyam possesses Isvar (if he-she exists at all) within itself.


 Telugu Potana's following verse (Sanskrit SlOka may be available in Mahabhagavata, we have to search, I shall take it up later).

Verse 75, Chapter 3, Canto 8, of Andhra MahabhAgavata of Bammera Potanamatya

lOkambulu lOkESulu
lOkasthulu tegina tudi alOkambagu pen
chIkaTi kavvala evvadu
EkAkriti velungu ataDi nE bhajiyintun. 8-3-75

English gist: After the destruction of these worlds, the rulers of these worlds, the residents of these worlds, are all destroyed (in the apocalypse), beyond the darkness that pervades everywhere, who glows with a single glow, I pray and worship him. This particular verse highlights the characteristic of eternal nature of Satyam and ISvar.

There are nearly ten other verses which try to define Isvar. Though these ten verses do not provide a perfect definition of Isvar (God), they give a reasonable indication of the Almighty. (Note: As an atheist and Marxist, I do not believe.)

The foremost of these is the verse:--

Evvani cE janimcu jagamu, evvani lOpala nundu lInamai,
evvani yandu dindu, paramEsvaru DevvaDu, mUlakAraNam
bevvaDu, anAdi madhya layuDevvaDu, sarvamu tAne aina vA
DevvaDu vAnin Atma bhavun, IsvarunE SaraNambu vEDedan.

From whom is this world born, in whom does this world remains (well protected),
into whom it will get merged, who is the Greatest of all the Gods, who is the foremost reason for this creation,
who has no beginning, middle and end, who is everything (omnipresent, the word VishNu also conveys this meaning of all pervasiveness),
Him, who is born in one's own self & soul, I take refuge in that God.

This is not just a wailing of an elephant (gajEndra). Through him, Potana expressed his clarity of mind about the God. In today's world of digital photography and internet, we want photos for everything. Actually, sometimes, even words can define with equal efficiency something which photos can depict, with seeming accuracy. Of course, both photos and words can mislead. But let us not doubt the sincerity of POtanAmAtya.



(Incomplete).   Shall complete shortly.  शीघ्र संपूर्ण करने के लिये कोशिश करता हूँ। త్వరలో పూర్తి చేస్తాను.

Saturday, May 16, 2015

509 Rulers are like kings of frogs playing with snakes. हमारे पालक साँपों से खेलनेवाले मेढक के राजाओं के जैसा हैं। మన రాజులు పాములతో మోయించుకున్న కప్పల రాజుల్లాంటి వాళ్ళు



I thought, that in this blog post I could continue about the origin of Tirumala Venkateswara, as reflected in the writing of Sripati Pandita and quoted by Late Shri Suravaram Pratapa Reddy. I had to push it off to future, and take up the great speech of our Great Prime Minister, Mr. Narendra Modi.

आज मै यहां इस ब्लाग पोस्ट में, श्री तिरुमल वॆंकटेश्वर देवालय के इतिहास के विषयांश में, स्वर्गीय सुरवरम प्रताप रॆड्डि द्वारा , उनके किताब आंध्रुल सांघिक चरित्र में दिया हुआ कोटेशन के बारे में लिखने केलिये लापटाप के सामने बैठा हूँ। परन्तु हमारे महानू प्रधान मंत्री श्री नरेंद्र मोदीजी के, चैना में दिया हुआ परम महानू प्रसंग प्रधम प्राधान्य विषय हो गया, श्री वेंकटेश्वर मंदिर विषय को स्थगित करना और आगे बढाना पडा।

ఇపుడు లాప్ టాప్ ముందు కూర్చుని , నిన్న నా ఈ బ్లాగ్ పోస్ట్ నంబర్ 508 కొంత వ్రాసిన, శ్రీ తిరుమల తిరుపతి వేంకటేశ్వర దేవాలయం, అసలు మొదట శ్రీవీరభద్ర దేవాలయమా అన్న దానిపై శ్రీపతి పండితుల వారి (13 లేక 14 శతాబ్ద కాకతీయుల కాలం) అభిప్రాయాన్ని, తన ఆంధ్రుల సాంఘిక చరిత్రలో స్వర్గీయ సురవరం ప్రతాప రెడ్డిగారు కోట్ చేయటాన్ని ప్రస్తావించి దానిని ఇంకా కొంత లోతుగా వ్రాద్దామనుకుంటుండగా, చైనాలో శ్రీ నరేంద్రమోదీ గారి ప్రసంగాంశాలు ముందుకు వచ్చి, శ్రీ వేంకటేశ్వర శ్రీవీరభద్ర అంశాలను వాయిదా వేయించాయి.

Shri Narendra Modi, during his visit of China, is reported to have said as under, while addressing the Indians residing in China, on 16.5.2015. श्री नरेंद्र मोदी महोदय, अपने चीन संदर्शन में, चैना के प्रवास भारतीयों से भाषण करते हुऎ, मीडिया सूचनाओँ के अनुसार, दिनांक १६.५.२०१५, निम्न घोषण भी कह दिये । శ్రీ నరేంద్ర మోదీ గారు చైనాలో, భారతీయుల నుద్దేశించి ప్రసంగిస్తు 16.5.2015 ఇలా అన్నారుట.
"I am criticised for working hard. If working hard is a crime, then I am prepared to commit that crime for 125 crore Indians. Every moment of my time is for the 125 crore people of India," said Prime Minister Modi while addressing the Indian community reception in Shanghai.

"I have tried to complete work that has been pending for 30 years. People trust me more because this is the first year of a full majority. The Government has done a lot of work."

Approximate Hindi from Net: लोग पूछते हैं कि मोदी क्यों इतने देशों की यात्रा कर रहे हैं। अगर आप कम काम करते हैं तब आलोचना सामान्य बात है। अगर आप सोते रहते हैं तब आलोचना सामान्य बात है। लेकिन मेरी किस्मत खराब है कि मेरी आलोचना अधिक काम करने की वजह से हो रही है। अगर अथक काम करना अपराध है, तब मैं ऐसा करना जारी रखूंगा। मेरी प्रतिबद्धता देश के लोगों के प्रति है।

'...గత ఏడాది కాలంగా నేను ఒక్కరోజు కూడా సెలవు తీసుకోలేదు. రాత్రీ-పగలూ నేను పని చేస్తున్నాను. నేను ఎప్పుడైనా సెలవుపై వెళ్లానా? నేను ఎప్పుడైనా విశ్రాంతి పొందానా?...' '...మోడీ విదేశాల్లో ఎక్కువగా ఎందుకు పర్యటిస్తారంటూ కొంతమంది అడుగుతున్నారు. తక్కువ పని చేస్తే విమర్శలు కొద్దిగానే ఉంటాయి, నిద్రపోతే కూడా అంతే..నా దురదృష్టమేమంటే ఎక్కువ పని చేస్తూ విమర్శల పాలవుతున్నాను...'


ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

People would have greatly appreciated if our beloved Prime Minister has been working for the chaiwalahs (tea sellers and tiffin cart workers as he himself claimed to be one of such persons) or for dishwaters in hotels (Ms. Smriti Irani's claim of her past working).

Prime Minister Modi met the top business tycoons of China and pitched the 'Make in India' initiative.

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ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

I have studied this speech. It is a routine type of speech written by his speech-makers, may be in PMO, or may be in MEA, or may be in Ministry of Commerce. Whatever it is, there is nothing special in it. Any PMoI might have used the same speech. Had it been a Hindi speech addressed to some NRIs/PIOs, he might, while speaking, have added some body language, gestures, modulations, to make it like a Late Shivaji Ganesan's speech in the film Karna or Veer Pandya Katta bomman, or the speech of Late N.T. Rama Rao in the film Dana Veera Sura Karna.

We are fortunate in one thing. He has not made a promise to bring out more labor reforms. So far so good. Yet, my mind gets stung up whenever I see/hear our rulers inviting foreign Corporates to "make in India" or "invest in India". It is because our rulers do not read history or learn from history, or at least learn from folk tales and legends.

STORY OF KING OF FROGS

There used to be a king of frogs. Once an intelligent serpant appraoched the king of frogs. The snake offered the royal frog, to carry him, his queens and friends, on his (snake's) back. The F'king rejoiced. Once on the back of the snake, F'king forgot the fear of snakes. After a few days, the snake pretended to be emaciated and week. F'king enquired from the snake, why he was so weak. The snake said it was hungry, and was unable to get any food. The F'king, addicted to being carried by the snake in royal jubilation, authorised the snake to eat two frogs every day. The snake used the F'king's authority to devor more frogs (who will count???) and finished all the frogs in the kingdom. When no menial hoi polloi frogs were available, the snake ate away the King, Queens, royal kith and kin.

The history is going to repeat for India. Of course, I do not know whether I am going to live longer than another ten years to see it, but for Indians, it is going to the tryst with the destiny.

We shall quote from the Andhrula sAhitya by Late Suravaram Pratapa Reddy.

Chapter relating to the period 1757 to 1857. Page 357.

స్ట్రాసీ అను నతడు అదే విచారణ సమితి ఎదుట యిట్లు చెప్పెను. "మనము హిందూస్థానీ పరిశ్రమల నాశనం చేసినాము. ఇప్పుడు భరతదేశము కేవలము భూమి పైననే ఆధారపడినది. నేటికిని (౧౮౧౩లో) ఇండియా పట్టు నూలు బట్టలు ఇంగ్లండులో మన సరకుల కంటే ౬౦ పాళ్ళు తక్కువ ధరలకు అమ్మును. అందుచేత మన ప్రభుత్వము వాటిపై (పేజీ ౩౫౭ లోకి) నూటికి ౭౦ లేక ౮౦ పాళ్ళ సుంకము వేసియో లేక అమ్మకుండా నిషేధించియో వారిని నష్టపెట్టుచున్నది. ఇట్లు చేయకుండిన మన మిల్లులు మూతబడి యుండెడివి. "

మన్రో ఇట్లనెను. "మద్రాసు సూబాలో కంపెనీ వారు సాలె వాండ్లను పిలిచి బలవంతముగా కారుచౌకగా తమకు బట్టలు నేసి యిచ్చునట్లు బాధించి ఒప్పందములు చేసిరి. వారు బట్టలు నేయుటలో ఆలస్యము చేసిన కంపెనీ నౌకర్లు వారిపై కావలి యెక్కి దినము ఒక అణా జుల్మానాను తీసుకొని పైగా బెత్తాలతో సాలె వారిని కొట్టి బాధించెడి వారు. "

ఇంగ్లీషు వారు ప్లాసీ యుధ్ధములో బెంగాలును 1760 లో వండి వాష్ యుధ్ధములో మద్రాసు సుబాను ఆక్రమించుకున్న తరువాత కూడ హిందూ స్థానము నుండి భారతీయులు తమ సరకులను ఇంగ్లండుకు అమ్ముటకై తమ ఓడలలో తీసుకొని పోయిరి. అప్పుడు తేమ్సు నదిలో మన ఓడలలో ఇంగ్లీషు వారు చూచి థేమ్సుకు నిప్పంటుకొనెనా అన్నట్లు రిచ్చ పడి మన యోడలను చూచిరట! భారతీయులే ____మన బానిసలే_____మన దేశములోనే మనకు పోటీగా వ్యాపారం చేస్తారా ? అన్న ఆగ్రహము కలుగగా కొన్ని యేండ్లలో మన ఓడలు, మన పరిశ్రమలు, మన సంపదలు అన్నియు మాయమై పోయెను. జనులకు భూములే మిగిలెను. కానీ వాటి ఫలితములో సగము అంతకంటే ఎక్కువ పన్నుల పేరుతో కంపెనీ వారు లాగుకొని పోయిరి.

Approximate English gist:
A person named Strassey said before the same Enquiry Committee: "..We have destroyed the industries of India. Now, India depends only on land. Even now (1813) Indian Silk, cotton clothes sell 60 times (may be 60%) cheaper than our goods. Hence, our Govt. is levying a duty of 60 or 70%, or by prohibiting imports from India, overcoming them.

Manro said: "... In Madras Province, Company has called the weavers and forcibly obtained agreements from them that they would very cheaply weave cloth(es) and deliver to them. When they delayed in weaving, Company's servants went watching them, recovered a penalty of one anna per day, and inflict them body injuries with canes. ..."

"English even after occupying Bengal in the Battle of Plassey in 1760, and the Madras Province in the Vandivash Battle, Indians went on ships to England, to sell goods. Then, when the English saw the ships, they got frightened as if the Thames River got engulfed in fires! Indians, __ our slaves ___will they trade in our country, competing with us? This anger was followed by the disappearance of our ships, our industries, and our wealth in a few years. Only lands were left for the people. But in the output from them (i.e. lands), more than half, was being snatched away by the Company , in the name of taxes. ..."




(To continue & revise as may be necessary. सशेष. पुनः संस्करण करने का है। ఇంకా ఉంది. తిరగవ్రాయాలి కూడాను. సూచనలకు స్వాగతం.)

508 Was Tirumala Venkateswara, originally VIrabhadra? क्या तिरुमल वॆंकटेश्वरा, असल में वीरभद्र महादेव था ? తిరుమల శ్రీ వేంకటేశ్వరుడు, అసలుకి వీరభద్రుడా ?




Many Mornings I start my day, thinking about, admiring and adoring, Late Suravaram Pratapa Reddy.

मै मेरे कई प्रभातों को स्वर्गीय सुरवरम प्रताप रॆड्डि को स्मरण करते हुए मेरा काम शुरू करता हूँ।

ఉదయాలు స్వర్గీయ సురవరం ప్రతాప రెడ్డి గారిని స్మరించుకుంటు చాల సార్లు నా రోజును ప్రారంభించిన సందర్భాలు ఉన్నాయి.

Lovers of history can never forget Suravaram Pratapa Reddy.

इतिहास प्रेमी लोग, सूरवरम प्रताप रॆड्डी को कभी नहीं भूल सकते।

చరిత్ర ప్రేమీకులు సురవరమ్ ప్రతాప రెడ్డి గారిని ఎన్నటికీ మరువలేరు.

We can never forget his book "Andhrula Sanghika Charitra" (Social History of Andhras).

आंघ्रों के सांघिक इतिहास, इस किताब को हम कभी नहीं भूल सकते।  भारत के सभी राज्यों में, इतिहास लेखक, ऐसे किताबों को स्थानिक ऐतिहासिक साक्ष्यों को इकठ्ठा करना और सुंदर ऐतिहासिक पुस्तकों के रचना करना अवश्य होगा।  उन सब पुस्तकों के सार को संग्रहण करते हुए, हम भारत के सच्ची सांघिक इतिहास बनाने के कोशिश कर सकते हैं।  यह श्री मुरळी मनोहर जोषीजी के पध्धती से भिन्न होता है।

ఆంధ్రుల సాంఘిక చరిత్ర, ఈ పుస్తకాన్ని మనం ఎన్నటికీ మర్చి పోలేము.  భారత్ లోని ప్రతి రాష్ట్రంలో, చరిత్ర రచయితలు, ఇలాటి పుస్తకాలను, స్థానిక చారిత్రిక సాక్ష్యాల ఆధారంగా వ్రాయాలి.  అలా వ్రాసిన చరిత్రలన్నిటినీ కలిపి మనం ఒక బృహత్ భారతీయ సాంఘిక చరిత్రను వ్రాసే ప్రయత్నం చేయవచ్చు.



This book helps not only people speaking Telugu, but also people of all 'defeated and enslaved' countries and cultures, apart from India. Needless to say, that it will be useful to people living in other States of India.

यह किताब, सिर्फ तॆलुगु जनता के लिये नहीं, विजित और दासीभूत बनाया इतिहास वाले सभी दशों, भारत के सभी राज्यों, और जनताओं को हितकारी है।  मै इस के आंग्लानुवाद के लिये खोज कर रहा हूँ।  यह किताब अंग्रेजी और हिंदी भाषाओं के अनुवाद योग्य है।


Link for those who wish to download this pdf Telugu book which has 482 pages. I am unable to trace an English translation/version of this book. Knowledgeable Readers may provide links in their comments window below.

यह पीडीऎफ तॆलुगु किताब डौनतोड करने के लिये लिंक--

ఈ స్కాన్ చేయ బడ్డ పీడీఎఫ్ తెలుగు పుస్తకం డౌన్ లోడ్ చేసుకోటానికి లింకు ఇదిగో.

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I had a very great fortune of visiting Pragatur, a village near Manavpadu Mandal, a few km. diversion from Hyderabad to Kurnool, Bangalore National Highway, in (South) Mahaboobnagar District. This village is on the Southern bank of the Krishna River, flooded by the backwaters of Sri Sailam Hydro Electric Project. According to the information I received from the locals, it was the native village of Late Suravaram Pratapa Reddy.

मुझे यह भाग्य प्राप्त हुआ कि, स्वर्गीय सुरवरम प्रताप रॆड्डी के जन्म स्थल प्रागटूर गाँव (यह आज के तॆलंगाणा राज्य, महबूबनगर जिला, मानवपाडु मंडल, हैदराबाद कर्नूल बॆंगळूर जातीय मार्ग के समीप में, कृष्णा नदी तीर पर है।) संदर्शन करने के मौका मुझे मिला। यह गाँव, श्रीशैलम हैड्रो ऎल्क्ट्रिक प्राजॆक्ट के पीछे जमा होने वाले बाढ पानियों से कभी कभी डूब सकता है। 

నా అదృష్టమేమిటంటే, స్వర్గీయ సురవరం ప్రతాప రెడ్డి గారి జన్మస్థలం ప్రాగటూరు గ్రామాన్ని సందర్శించటం.   ఇది, ప్రస్తుత తెలంగాణ రాష్ట్రం, మహబూబ్ నగర్ జిల్లా, మానవపాడు మండల సమీపం, హైదరాబాదు కర్నూలు బెంగుళూరు జాతీయ రహదారి సమీపంలో, కృష్ణానదీ దక్షిణ తీరంలో ఉన్నది.  బహుశా, శ్రీశైలం హైడ్రో ఎలక్ట్రిక ప్రాజెక్టు వెనుక భాగంలో పోగయ్యే వరద నీటిలో ఈ గ్రామం, ఎండాకాలం మునిగి పోతూ ఉండచ్చు.  సుందరమైన ప్రకృతి, చల్లని గాలిని ఈ ప్రదేశం స్వంతం చేసుకుంది.


We shall, now, take up one or two items from the book Social History of Andhras, penned by Late Pratapa Reddy. We shall take up the subject of Tirumala Tirupati Venkateswara Temple.



Page 425 of the book. Part of reply to Late Shri Rallapalli Anantakrishna Sarma.
"...వేంకటేశ మూర్తిలో శైవ, వీరభద్ర, స్కంధ, శక్తి చిహ్నాలు కొన్ని కలవనుట సత్యం. దాని నిశ్చిత స్వరూప మిది యని ప్రకృతం నిర్ణయించటం కొంత తొందరపనేమో..."
Approximate English: "...It is a fact that the idol of VenkatESa Murti has signs of Saiva, VIrabhadra, Skandha, Sakti. It may be hasty, at this time, to decide its definite form is this..."
Approximate Hindi: "...यह सत्य है कि, वेंकटेश मूर्ती (तिरुमल श्री वेंकटेश्वर या बालाजी भगवान के मूर्ति) में शैव, वीरभद्र, स्कंध, शक्ति के चिह्न है। इस समय पर, उन के रूप निर्णय करना, जल्दबाजी या अविचारी हो सकता। ..."

In Page 5 of the Chapter on Rule of Reddy Kings:

"...జైనులు రంగము నుండి దిగజారిపోయిన తరువాత మతోన్మాద గదా యుధ్ధమునకు వీరశైవ వీర వైష్ణవులే మిగిలిరి. వీరు పరస్పరము తిట్టుకున్న తిట్లే ఒక చేట భారతము అగును. వీరు గుళ్ళలోని విగ్రహాలను కూడ శక్తికలిగి నపుడు మార్చిరి. సుప్రసిధ్ధమగు తిరుపతి వేంకటేశ్వరుని విగ్రహము మొదట వీరభద్ర విగ్రహమనియు, దానిని వైష్ణవ విగ్రహముగా చేసిరనియు కాకతీయుల కాలపు వాడగు శ్రీపతి పండితులు తమ శ్రీకర భాష్యములో తెలిపినారు. *ఈ బలవత్ పరివర్తనము చేసిన వారు శ్రీమద్ రామానుజాచార్యుల వారని శ్రీపతి పండితులు తెలిపినారు... "

Approximate English gist: "....After the exit of the Jains from the screen, for the war of maces of the communal hatred, Vira Saivas and VIra VaishNavas. The mutual abuses will become a CETa bhAratam (very long and expansive as Mahabharata). These people, whenever capable of doing, changed even the idols and deities in temples. Kakatiya period scholar Sripati Pandita wrote in his book Srikara bhAshyam:- Venkateswara's idol was first an idol of VIrabhadra, they made into Vaishnava idol. *Sri Pandita has also said that this coercive conversion was done by Srimad Ramanujacharya. ..."
In the chapter on Vijayanagara Rule:

"...శ్రీమద్రామానుజులవారి కాలములో శ్రీపతి పండితుల ఆభిప్రాయ ప్రకారం, తిరుపతి వీరభద్రుడు వెంగళయ్య కాగా అతని ప్రభావము తెనుగు దేశముపై బహు శీఘ్రముగా వ్యాపించుకొని పోయెను. ఈనాటి వలెనే క్రీ.శ. ౧౫౦౦ లో కూడ తిరుపతి మాహాత్మ్యము దక్షిణా పథమందంతటను నిండు కొనిపోయెను. వేంకట శబ్దమునకు (వేం; కటతీతి. వేం అంటే పాపాలట! ఎక్కడి ధాతువో ఏమో ?) ఒక కొత్త అర్ధమును ఇటీవలి పండితులు కల్పించినారు. ఇది సంస్కృత శబ్దము కాదు. ఇది వెంగడము అను అరవపదము. తెలుపు గల బొల్లి గట్లు అగుట చేత తెల్లని గట్లు అనుటకు అరవములో వెంగడము అన్నారు. వెంగళ దాని పర్యాయ పదము. తిరుపతికి వెళ్ళు భక్తులు పడిన పాట్లు ఆ కాలపు కవి యిట్లు వర్ణించెను. ... "

Approximate English gist: "....During the period of Sri Ramanuja, according to Sripati Pandita's opinion (of Kakatiya period), Tirupati's deity Virabhadrudu was Vengalaiah, and his great spread very fast in the Telugu land. Like now, in 1500 also, The Greatness of Tirupati spread all over the South India. Modern scholars created a new meaning for the word 'Venkata' (VEn=sin; kaTa=breaker, VenkaTa = breaker of sins). This is not a Sanskrit word. This is a word called "VengaDam". White colored Hills (presumably Tirumala Hills which are made of limestone are treated as white hills --ybrao-a-donkey) were called "bolli gaTlu", in Tamil they were called "VengaDamu". VengaLa is a synonym for that. The poet of those days described the travails of the pilgrims going to Tirumala...."

        हिंदी सार--    "... श्री रामानुज के काल मे, श्रीपति पंडित के कथन के अनुसार (श्रीपति पंडित काकतीय काल के है, या ने १२ या १३ शताब्दी के श्रीकर भाष्य रचयिता थे।), तिरुपति वीरभद्रुडु के नाम वॆंगळय्या था, और यह बहूत तेजी से, सारे तॆलुगु भूमी पर विस्तृत हुआ.  आज के जैसा, १५०० में भी, तिरुपती के माहात्म्य पूरे दक्षिण भारत में व्याप्त हुआ।  आधुनिक पंडित, वॆंकट शब्द को यह नया अर्ध  निकाल रहा है कि, वॆन  = पाप, कट = विनाश, खंडन, मिला कर पाप खंडन करने वाले भगवान.  परन्तु , वेंकट शब्द संस्कृत शब्द नहीं है।  यह शब्द है वेंगडम.  सफेद रंगीन पर्वत होने से, इस पर्वत को लोग, तमिळ में वॆंगडमु कह रहे थे।   वेंगळ उस वेंगडम के पर्याय पद।  उन दिनों के कवी, तिरुमला-तिरुपती जाने वाले यात्री के दुरवस्थाओं को वर्णन किया।   "

वैबी राव गधे के विवरण -- श्री वेंकटेश्वर भगवान, पाप विनाश करेगा या नहीं करेगा, यह अलग बात है।  वॆंकट पद को पाप विनाश अर्ध से तालूक नहीं है।  यह तमिळ पद स्थान वर्णन वाचक है।  तिरुपती के सप्त गिरी (सप्त अचल) लैम स्टोन (चूने पथ्थर) मिनरल के है, और वे ग्रीष्म ऋतु में जब पेड कम रहते, सफेद दिखते है.  इसी लिये उनके तमिळ भाषा वर्णन मे सफेद रंग वेंक या वॆंग का उपसर्ग उपयोग किया गया होगा।

Link to read Part 2, in post No. 511. http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/511.



(To continue & revise as may be necessary. सशेष. पुनः संस्करण करने का है। ఇంకా ఉంది. తిరగవ్రాయాలి కూడాను. సూచనలకు స్వాగతం.)

Monday, May 11, 2015

507 How will Mr. Modi deal with this Indian billionaire? मोदी महोदय इस भारतीय बिलियनियर से कैसा डील करेगा ? మన చాయ్ వాలా ప్రధాని మోడీ మహోదయుడు ఈ భారతీయ బిలియనియర్ తో ఎలా డీల్ చేయగలడు ?



We must thank Ms. Namita Gupta for writing in Deccan Chronicle, dated 9.5.2015, that an Indian billionaire gave a tip of Pounds 5,000 in a Casino at Mayfair, London.

Readers who wish to read this article, which is worth reading by every Indian: Click to go to http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150509/commentary-sunday-chronicle/article/%E2%80%98suite%E2%80%99able-life
...The casino personifies the best in private gaming, refinement and unique ambience of private salons. It is an exclusive gambler’s den for members, the elite few and for those that can afford to join, a luxurious gaming haven awaits. Within weeks of opening, the club, nestled in the heart of Mayfair, had visits from Daphne Guinness, Mick Jagger and Kate Moss. Recently, a £5,000 cash tip was left at a table by an Indian billionaire. ...


At Reddit, there is a comment by a "I am a professional chauffeur" with a screen name "OctaneN". Here he says that he received a tip of CHF 5000 (apparently Swiss Francs 5,000 about US$ 5,500), from the wife of an Indian billionaire. This link is more informative, and worth studying. It has about 500 comments. The linked web page shows top 200 comments. Some of these are worth reading. I could not read all the 200 comments, as I couln't find time. Here is link to it. Click to go to http://www.reddit.com/comments/m5z8p/iama_professional_chauffeur_of_celebrities_and/

I quote from it:
How long was the job? I mean, that's a pretty ridiculous type in just about any situation but was it like, "Drive me to the airport. Yes, good here's 5000 dollars." Or was it like, "sit in this hotel for two weeks and drive me anywhere in town on my whim?"

EDIT (answered below):Being on standby for a whole week is really annoying. I was in switzerland with an Indian billionaire and his wife (yep, those with the 5000CHF tip)

Being on standby for a whole week is really annoying. I was in switzerland with an Indian billionaire and his wife (yep, those with the 5000CHF tip) and all they said after leaving the car was "we'll call you when we need you". So i had no idea when to sleep, eat or even go to the restroom, because i had to stay ready and suited up for the whole day.



Question: Why do you say that the above Reddit comments are worth reading?

Ans: Because, these comments clearly demonstrate what is happening in the "World Capitalist Stage", and to some extent on "Indian Capitalist stage".


To see the photos of the top ten Casinos in the world, here is a beautiful link: http://www.mastifry.com/post/2015/2/top-10-casinos.php



ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

 

Who could be this Indian Billionaire? Obviously, the person might have been a business tycoon or an industrialist. It can even be Indian politicians (and their sons), cricketers, film stars.

Pounds 5,000 tip  at today's rate works out to  £ 5000 = ₨ 497,760.  Website useful for this type of conversions: http://in.advfn.com/p.php?pid=fxcalculate&action=convert&amount=5000&from=GBP&to=INR&btn=Convert


If a person spent Rs 500,000 on tip alone, how much would he have spent at Casino, Restaurant, Hotel Suites, transport, shopping etc. etc.  To my small lunatic mind, it appears as Rs. 50 million.





If we have to analyse, this analysis can have two branches of possibilities:

1. The Indian billionaire who gave Pounds 5,000 tip, is an Indian passport holder, Resident of India.  Is on a foreign trip either for business or on vacation.  Our Indian business persons say that they are unable to do business in India, because of high taxes, high interest rates.  They want Govt. to give cheap land, cheap power, tax holidays, low interest rates.  They bring PM and FM to their meetings and try to brainwash him for extracting these concessions, lest they should make a propaganda abroad that India is not a country good for investments.  The Govt. should try to identify the business person, and counsel him-her if they are spending their legitimate income and wealth (this is most unlikely).  GOI may be employing its Intelligence Bureau Agents to undertake surveillance on terrorists, and criminals.  Economic offenders can sometimes do greater harm to a country than terrorists.  Hence the GOI cannot remain blind spectator to its citizens becoming gaudy spenders abroad.  They can't throw away bills as bucks, even if they are hard-earned.


2. The Indian billionaire might have been an NRI or a PIO (Person of Indian origin).  He might have earned his income and wealth abroad, through either genuine means or dubious means.  Whatever be their methods of earning, they make an indirect representation that they belong to India.  As long as they do things ethically supportable, probably country will not suffer from their actions.  Suppose, their evil deeds come later, and some Western court of law imprisons them for some years, should the 1.3 billion Indians take pride for their actions?  Persons representing India, even simply as citizens, have a duty to protect the honor of the country by their ethically exemplary behaviors.


Jan Suraksha lies in bringing grave economic offenders under control and holding the honor of the country upheld at all times.


Jan Suraksha does not lie, in hard hitting on the heads of people with a baseball bat, in the form of hidden taxes (not giving publicity about levy of a near 15% service tax in a welfare  scheme is nothing but hidden hitting).

Our great Mr. Narendra Modi says that he has launched three social security insurance schemes for India's poor. If we look at the scheme closely, we find that the schemes hammer people in two ways:

a) State hammers Service tax even before the beneficiaries of the insurance get any benefit from the Security Scheme.

b) There seems to be a plan to divert the funds collected (Will run into billions, or at least hundreds millions) to Share Markets. Thus bonanza will be for the share markets! Not for the poor! Suppose after some years, the markets collapse, like the Saradha scam in Bengal, Sahara scam, Harshad Mehta's scam, Ketan Parekh's scam, who will save the poor?

c) Suppose the funds of the Jan Suraksha three schemes are diverted to Indian share markets, the money falls into the hands of the Indian businessmen throwing away Pounds 5,000 as tips, what will be the fate of the billion Indians?


d) Inflation is going to spiral. How the Government is going to protect the poor subscribers to the policies, from the perils of erosion of value of money?

(To continue & revise as may be necessary. सशेष. पुनः संस्करण करने का है। ఇంకా ఉంది. తిరగవ్రాయాలి కూడాను. సూచనలకు స్వాగతం.)

Sunday, May 10, 2015

506 Part 3 of "Anywhere a brother-in-law, but not a brother-in-law in brinjal garden" भाग ३: कहीं भी देवर हो सकते, लेकिन बैंगन बगीचे मे जेठ नहीं" భాగం 3: ఎక్కడైనా బావే కానీ వంగతోటలో కాదు.


Our blind belief is that: persons in the same family are close relatives; people of one caste/sub-caste are relatives; people of one religion are relatives; people of one region or sub-region are brothers; people speaking one language are kith and kin; people working in the same organisation are siblings; our favorite heroes are our elder brothers.

हमारा अंध विश्वास यह है कि: कुटुंब मे सहजीवन करनेवाले समीप बंधू होते हैं; एक उपकुल या कुल के लोग बंधु होते हैं; एक धर्म के लोग नातेदार होते हैं; एक प्रांत या उप प्रांत या उप प्रांत के लोग भाई होते हैं; एक भाषा भाषण करनेवाले लोग झाती होते हैं; एक संस्था में काम करनेवाले लोग सोदर होते हैं; हमारे प्रिय फिल्म हीरो हमारे बडे भाई होते हैं।

మన అంధ విశ్వాసం ఏమిటంటే, మన కుటుంబంతో సహజీవనం చేసే వాళ్ళంతా మన సమీప బంధువులనే; మన ఉపకులం, కులం వాళ్ళంతా మన బంధువులనే; మన మతం వారంతా మన బంధువులనే; మన ప్రాంతం వారు, ఉపప్రాంతం వారు అంతా మన అనుంగు సోదరులే; మన భాష మాట్లాడే వాళ్ళంతా మన అన్నలూ తమ్ముళ్ళనే; ఒకే సంస్థలో పనిచేసే వాళ్ళంతా అనుజులనే; మన ప్రియ హీరోలందరూ మనం పాదాలమీద పడి నమస్కరించాల్సిన జ్యేష్ఠభ్రాతలే.

All are lies. If not lies, they are illusions. If not illusions, they are obsessions. If not obsessions, they are hallucinations. If not hallucinations, then they are castles in the air. Nothing really bonds and unites persons. There are no araldites and fevicols to glue people together.

वै सभी झूट हैं। वे झूट नहीं तो, वे जादू जनित भ्रम होगे। वे भ्रम नहीं तो, वे जुनून और मनो ग्रस्तता होते हैं। वे मनोग्रस्तता नहीं तो, वे दुस्स्वप्न जनित भ्रांती होते हैं। वे भ्रांती नहीं तो, हवाई में बना हुआ महल होते हैं। यह नित्य और संसिध्ध है कि, व्यक्तियों को बांधने वाले सच्ची बांध कुछ भी इस दुनिया में नहीं है। वैसा अविभाज्य बाँधनेवाला अरल्डैट या फॆविकाल अभी तक नहीं बना हुआ हैं।

అవి అన్నీ అబధ్ధాలే. అవి అబధ్ధాలు కాకపోతే భ్రమలు. అవి భ్రమలు కాకపోతే, వేలం వెర్రులు. వెర్రులు కాకపోతే దుస్వప్న జనిత చిత్త భ్రాంతులు. చిత్త భ్రాంతులు కాకపోతే, గాలిమేడలు. వ్యక్తులను కలిపి ఉంచే బంధాలేమీ లేవు. వ్యక్తులను బంకలాగా బంధించి ఉంచటానికి అరల్డైట్లు, ఫెవికాల్ డబ్బాలు ఇంకా రాలేదు.

For example let us take the Telugu speakers in North America. They have Associations like Telugu Association of North America (TANA), North America Telugu Association (NATS). From Telugu land, went the great pahilvans Nara Lokesh and K.T.R., to show their art of boxing and wrestling. But in NATS, another match is going on.

One of the founder members of the NATS and its former Treasurer, Shri Chundu Viraiah, is reported to have approached the Pasadena, California District Court, alleging diversion of funds, and violation of American laws.

For those who want to read this Andhrajyothy news report: Click to go to http://www.andhrajyothy.com/Artical.aspx?SID=107156&SupID=42

The other side, consisting of many of the present Directors, viz. Korrapati Madhu, Mukkamala Appa Rao, Madala Ravindra, Chakradhar S. Oleti have, of course, denied the allegations; that no unilateral or unauthorised decisions were taken; that every thing has been done with the consent of the Board. They explained that Mr. Veeraiah is indulging in this type of propaganda, only because his word did not prevail, with regard to the celebrations being made in Los Angeles. As the matter is sub-judice, they wanted to exercise restraint, till the court's verdict, and then disclose.

For the readers who wish to read this Andhrajyothy report: Click to go to http://www.andhrajyothy.com/Artical.aspx?SID=107829&SupID=42

ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

What had actually happened between the two sides of the NATS, nobody knows. We have to wait and see how the American courts will decide.

Some money laundering and tax evasion also seems to have taken place. Or Mr. Veeraiah may be making fictitious allegations. We have to decide, till the court decides.

The question is, why didn't their caste unite them (most of them, belong to the same landed caste of Coastal A.P.)? Why didn't their Telugu language unite them? Of course, they may not be very particular about their relgion.

Once I had a conversation with a friend who just returned from US. I have enquired from him, how many Telugu homes he visited? What were his experiences?

His reply shocked me. All these sambarAlu are farces (external showings). Reality is diffrent. Well-settled Telugu people in USA, will not allow newly arriving Telugu persons to come near them, because they are afraid, that the new person may request to borrow their car, may request for some hand-loan, or some other favor.

Same things happen in most urban areas of India, Telangana State, Residual Andhra Pradesh. It happens even in Guntur and Vijayavada. Middle Class neighbors, or Upper class neighbors living in adjacent houses do not speak to one another because of this hidden fear of asking for money or car or something else. This may happen even if both the people belong to same caste. But coming to marriages, even if neighbors belong to castes fighting with one another, offsprings are permitted to love and marry, as long as there is going to be substantial exchange of wealth. There, caste will not matter much.

Question: You have made a caustic observation that persons working in the same organisation are not brothers. Justify your words! ఒకే సంస్థలో పనిచేసేవాళ్ళు సోదరులు కాదని మీరు తీవ్రమైన వ్యాఖ్య చేశారు. నిరూపించండి.

Reply: Behaviors of brotherhood change from place to place, time to time, situation to situation, divergence of the goals of the individuals and groups involved. You can see some examples:

Didn't Telangana lawyers and Residual AP lawyers didn't fight, though they are Telugu people and belong to the same fraternity of legal profession?

Are the Telangana NGOs and RAP NGOs not fighting, though both are NGOs?

Are the Telangana film artists and Andhra film artists not fighting?

You take the recent RTC strike: Permanent employees of RTC and contract employees of RTC, are they not fighting? Permanent drivers of RTC, private bus drivers of hired buses, are they not fighting?

Every behavior of individuals is moulded by his needs. They question to themselves: How much I am going to benefit, if this is given, and how much I am going to lose, if this is given.

Question: Then, what is the solution?

Answer: Karl Marx clearly said that all human relationships are financial - monetary - pecuniary relationships.

If financial - monetary - pecuniary relationships are to be replaced with truly human relations, we have demolish the Capitalist Society which gives a crowning place to "money" and tromps on money-less human beings, are plunging into the nadir, depriving all their dignity, and robbing all the fruits of their labor.

Question: You are asking for impossible things!

Ans: I am not asking. If Modi says that he was once a chaiwalah in his life, or if Ms. Smriti Irani says that she washed plates in a Mumbai restaurant, they do not believe that they are chaiwallahs or dishwashers now. They think that they are Prime Minister and HRD Minister respectively. Only fools convince themselves that Chaiwalahs and dishwashers can become Prime Ministers and HRD Ministers.

The harsh reality is, whether it is David Cameron or Barack Obama or Narendra Modi, whatever be their origins, they have to play to the tunes of their fund-raiser donors and industrialists. Without donors and industrialists, PMs and Presidents cannot survive. Consequently, PMs and Presidents do not relishing the idea of demolishing a monetary economy. Consequently, classes thrive.

So, you mean to say that all Telugu people are not one?

KCR can be asked this question: Why he is taking revenge on a great freedom-fighter like Potti Sriramulu. Why does he want to obliterate Sriramulu's name from Telugu University? Can't Telangana Government start a larger institution and name it "Suravaram Pratapa Reddy"? KCR himself says that Telangana Government is rich, and that there is going to be great development ahead, that many institutions will be started. Then can't he start a new institution, preferably near Pragatur (native village of Late Suravaram Pratapa Reddy) on the banks of Krishna River and name it on Late Suravaram?

Probably, he wants to name all the new institutions in his own name, his son's name, daughter's name, nephew's name, like the Nehru dynasty!

Then what truly fastens people? तो, क्या लोगों चिप्कानेवाला गोंद क्या है ? అయితే జనాన్ని అతికించే తుమ్మ బంక ఏదీ ?

505 Ms. Raunat, kindly also speak out loudly that Lady character actresses should get good pay cheques like heroines? रौनतै जी, आप नटियों को समान पे चॆक् के बारे में भी भाषण कीजिये రౌనత్ గారూ, క్యారెక్టర్ నటీమణులకు మంచి పే చెక్కులు రావాలని కూడ గర్జించండి.



"...Few people are trying, like me. It is still a very, very male-dominated industry and yes hopefully, at some point, it will be equal and I am going to make sure that happens..."

कम लोग, मेरी जैसी, कोशिश कर रही हैं। यह अभी भी, एक बहुत बहुत पूरुषाधिक्य उद्योग है, और उम्मीद है कि, कुछ समय पर, वह समान होता, और मै उसको होने के लिये, मै दृढ निश्चित करूँगी।

నాలాటి కొద్దిమంది మాత్రమే ప్రయత్నిస్తున్నారు. ఇది ఇంకా చాలా చాలా పురుషాధిక్య పరిశ్రమ, మరియు, ఆశావహంగా, ఏదో ఒక సమయంలో, అది సమానమవుతుంది, మరియు అది జరిగేలా నేను గట్టిగా ప్రయత్నించబోతున్నాను.


ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

Her trying to get equal remuneration with men actors, is welcome. She is silent about Lady actresses playing character roles and non-glamor roles getting reasonably good remuneration (though not equal to that of a heroine). There should be explainable proportional relation between what a heroine gets and what other female actors, female asst. directors etc., and technicians get. Sometimes, heroines get more than the film directors. Will Ms. Raunat fight for every female participant in the industry?

पुरुषों के समान वेतन पाने के लिये सुश्री कंगना रौनतजी कोशिश करना , स्वागत है। मगर, वे फिल्मों मे अन्य महिळा क्यारॆक्टर याक्टर, और गैर तोना रंगीन आकर्षण नहीं रहनेवाले भागों में पात्र लेने वालियों के हीरोयिनों से समान नहीं, कम से कम, न्यायपूर्वक वेतनों के बारे में क्यों गुंगी मूकी है ? हीरोयिनों के वेतनों और अन्य महिला नटी, सहायक डैरक्टर, टॆक्नीषीयन, वगैरों की वेतनों मध्य़ कुछ न कुछ विवरणयोग्य, सुधर्मी निष्पत्ती तो रहना है न ? कभी कभी हीरोयन्से अपनी डैरक्टरों से भी ज्यादा वेतन पाती है। क्या रौनतजी, फिल्म उद्योग के सभी महिला कलाकारों के हक्कों के लिये संघर्ष करेगी ?

పురుష హీరోలతో సమాన వేతనం తనకు రావాలని కు. కంగనా రౌనత్ గారు కోరటం, స్వాగతమే . కానీ, మరి సినిమాల్లో బలమైన కేరక్టర్ వేషాలు, గైర్ గ్లామర్ వేషాలు వేసే నటీమణుల, మరియు జూనియర్ మహిళా ఆర్టిస్టుల వేతనాల గురించి రౌనత్ గారు మూగపోయారేమిటి ? సహాయక నటీమణులే కాక, మహిళా అసిస్టెంట్ డైరక్టర్లు , మేకప్ కళాకారులు, స్వీపర్లు, సహనర్తకులు (హీరో హీరోయిన్లు గంతులేస్తుంటే, ప్రక్కన నిజాయితీగా నృత్యాలు చేసేవాళ్ళు), టైలర్లు, టెక్నీషియన్లు వాళ్ళందరి సంగతి ఏమిటి ? వారికై కూడ కంగనా గారు పోరాడుతారా ?

(To continue & revise as may be necessary. सशेष. पुनः संस्करण करने का है। ఇంకా ఉంది. తిరగవ్రాయాలి కూడాను. సూచనలకు స్వాగతం.)

Friday, May 8, 2015

504 Part 5 of sharing one's own life's partner भाग ५ अपने जीवित भागस्वामी को अन्य पुरुष या स्त्रियों से बाँट लेना భాగం 5 తన జీవిత భాగస్వామిని ఇతర స్త్రీపురుషులతో పంచుకోటం



Part 1 Click to go to http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/054

If you wish to read Part 2, Click to go to http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/484

If you wish to read Part ౩, Click to go to http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/486

If you wish to read Part 4, Click to go to http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/487

The Andhra Jyothy Telugu Daily dated 8th May 2015, published in its Navya supplement, an interview with Mrs. Saroja SriSri, second wife of Late Mahakavi SriSri, on the occasion of his 105th birth anniversary. This is a very valuable interview, and worth reading. Someday, I wish to add an approximate English gist of the interview, at this blog post. Right now, I wish to touch upon one topic, "Sharing of one's own partner, with another person", to the extent it relates to the interview.

आंध्रज्योती तॆलुगु दैनिक अखबार उनके दिनांक ८ मई २०१५ नव्या सप्लिमॆंट में, प्रख्यात तॆलुगु महाकवी श्रीश्री के द्वितीय पत्नी श्रीमति सरोजा श्रीश्री से एक साक्षात्कार छापा। यह साक्षात्कार एक अत्यंत मूल्यवान है। आप पढना चाहे तो, लिंक। मेरा एक आकांक्षा है, इसका हिंदी अनुवाद भी देना उत्तम होगा। आशा है, आंध्रज्योती भविष्य में उसके हिन्दी ऎडिषन प्रारंभ करेगा और इस साक्षात्कार के हिन्दी अनुवाद को भी छापेगा।

ఆంధ్ర జ్యోతి తెలుగు దినపత్రిక వారు, తమ 8 మే 2015 నవ్య సప్లిమెంటులో, స్వర్గీయ మహాకవి శ్రీశ్రీ గారి 105వ జయంతి సందర్భంగా , వారి ద్వితీయ సతీమణి శ్రీమతి సరోజా శ్రీశ్రీగారితో ఒక ఇంటర్వ్యూను ప్రచురించారు. ఈ ఇంటర్వ్యూ అమూల్యమైనది. మీరు చదువకోరితే ఈ ప్రక్క లింకును క్లిక్ చేయండి. ఏనాటికైనా ఈ ఇంటర్వ్యూ పూర్తి పాఠాన్ని శ్రీ ఆంధ్రజ్యోతి వారి అనుమతితో ఈ బ్లాగ్ లో పెట్టేకోరిక నాకు ఉంది. ప్రస్తుతానికి "తన జీవిత భాగస్వామిని ఇతరులతో పంచుకోటం " అంశాన్ని మాత్రమే సృశిస్తున్నాను. Click to go to http://www.andhrajyothy.com/Artical.aspx?SID=107194&SupID=25

Question: Having two spouses is a private issue of individuals. The three people co-existing, is an eternal triangle which led to thousands of films of worldwide. This eternal love triangle is in no way connected with your avowed objects of spreading atheism and Marxism / Communism / Total Socialism. Why do you waste your time?

सवाल: दो जीवित भागस्वामियों को रखना व्यक्तियों के प्रैवेट् प्रेम संबंधित कारोबार। तीन लोग के सहजीवन, एक सार्वजनिक सांसारिक सत्य जिसने विश्व व्याप्त हजारों फिल्मों के थीम बन गया। उस से आपको क्या तालूक है ? यह सार्वकालित प्रेम त्रिभुज आपके प्रकटित लक्ष्य नास्तिकवाद, मार्क्सिजम या कम्यूनिजम या संपूर्ण साम्यवाद से भिन्न है। आप आपके टैम को क्यों व्यर्ध कर रहे हैं ?


ప్రశ్న: ఇద్దరు జీవిత భాగస్వాములను కలిగి ఉండటం అనేది వ్యక్తుల ప్రైవేటు వ్యవహారం. ముగ్గురు వ్యక్తులు కలిసి సహజీవనం చేయటం అనేది ఒక సార్వజనిక సార్వకాలిక సాంసారిక సత్యంగా విశ్వ వ్యాప్తంగా కొన్ని వేల సినిమాలకు ప్రేమ త్రిభుజం సినిమాలను అందించింది. ఈ సార్వకాలిక సార్వజనిక ప్రేమ త్రిభుజానికి మీ ప్రకటిత జీవిత లక్ష్యం అయిన నాస్తికత్వాన్ని, మార్క్సిజం | కమ్యూనిజం | సంపూర్ణ సామ్యవాదాన్ని ప్రచారం చేయటానికి ఏమాత్రం సంబంధం లేదు. మీరు మీ టైమును ఎందుకు వ్యర్ధం చేసుకుంటున్నారు ? మీరు ఎంత గాడిదైనా ఇలా చేయకూడదు కదా ?


Reply: 1. Mahakavi SriSri is not a private person. He himself claimed that he was a "yugakarta (founder of an era)". 2. I know that a deceased person cannot defend himself. I have no intention to criticise Mahakavi SriSri except to the extent it is relevant to spreading of atheism and Marxism. 3. Mahakavi SriSRi himself said: Private lives are your own. When you come into public, we shall say anything. 4. True Marxism, in my personal view, does not (probably ought not to) recognise "marriage" as an institution. A true Marxist society may have to be a marriageless society. The idea (ideal?) seems to be based on the principle (analogy?) as Marxism does not recognise private property, it recognise the concept of a private spouse.

जवाब: १. महाकवी श्रीश्री एक प्रैवेट व्यक्ती नहीं था, नहीं है। उनहोंने स्वयम कहाँ मैं एक युगकर्ता हूँ। २. एक कीर्तिशेष व्यक्ति अपने को आत्म रक्षण नहीं कर सकते। इसीलिये उसको क्रिटिसैज करना धर्म नहीं है। मुझे यह यकीन है कि मै महाकवी को अन्याय विमर्श नहीं करूँगा। और यह भी मेरा लक्ष्य है कि मै उन अंशो को स्पर्श करुंगा , जो नास्तिकवाद और मार्क्सिजम संबंधित हैं। ३. महाकवी श्रीश्री स्वयं प्रकट किया कि "प्रैवेट जीवनों आपके ही होते हैं। परन्तु, जब आप बाजार में आये, हम कुछ भी कह सकते हैं।" ४. सच्ची मार्क्सिजम, मेरे व्यक्तिगत विश्वास है कि मैरेज को एक रहने लायक व्यवस्था नहीं मानता। सच्ची मार्किस्ट समाज, विवाह रहित (मैरेजलॆस ) ही होना पडेगा। यह भावना (आदर्श ?) यह मार्किस्ट सिध्धांत पर आधारित दिखता है कि: जैसा मार्क्सिजम प्रैवेट् प्रापर्टी को नहीं मानता है, वैसा ही वैवाहिक व्यवस्था और उसके प्रैवेट स्पौज (व्यक्तिगत भागस्वामी) सूत्र को नहीं मानना चाहिए।

జవాబు: 1. మహాకవి శ్రీశ్రీ ఒక ప్రైవేటు వ్యక్తి కాదు. పైగా ఆయనే స్వయంగా నేను యుగకర్తనని చెప్పుకున్నారు. 2. ఒక కీర్తిశేషుడైన వ్యక్తి తన పై వచ్చే విమర్శలనుండి తనను తాను రక్షించుకోలేడని నాకు తెలుసు. అందుకే వీలైనంత వరకు నా విమర్శను మార్క్సిజం కు సంబంధించిన విషయాలకే పరిమితం చేసుకుందామనుకుంటున్నాను. ౩. మహాకవి శ్రీశ్రీ యేస్వయంగా ప్రకటించారు: ప్రయివేటు బతుకులు మీ సొంతం..పబ్లిక్‌ లోకి వస్తే ఏమైనా అంటాం… 4. సత్యమైన మార్క్సిజమ్ , నా వ్యక్తిగత నమ్మకమేమిటంటే, వివాహాన్ని చిరకాలం ఉంచుకోదగ్గ వ్యవస్థగా భావించదు. స్వఛ్ఛమైన మార్క్సిస్టుసమాజం, వివాహ రహితమే కావాలి. ఈ భావన (ఆదర్శం ?) , మార్క్సిజం ప్రైవేటు ఆస్తిని గుర్తించదు కాబట్టి, వివాహం లో భాగస్వాములు తమ పార్ట్నర్లను వ్యక్తిగత ఆస్తులుగా భావిస్తురా కాబట్టి , వివాహ వ్యవస్థ ఉండతగనిది అని నాభావన. ఈ అభిప్రాయం నిజమైనదైతే, భాగస్వాములను కూడ సమాజపు ఆస్తులుగా భావించాల్సి ఉంటుంది. అయితే మన సమాజం, ఆస్థాయికి ఎదుగుతుందా (దిగజారుతుందా ?) అనే విషయాన్ని చెప్పలేము.

One quote from the interview. साक्षात्कार से एक कोट. ఇంటర్వ్యూనుండి ఒక కోట్.
"...పెళ్లి అయిన తర్వాత- రమణమ్మ గారు, నేను ఒకే వీధిలో ఉండేవాళ్లం. నాకు ఆమెకు ఎటువంటి విరోధం లేదు. ‘మీ ఇద్దరినీ తక్కెడలో పెడితే.. ఇద్దరూ సమానంగా తూచబడతారేమో..’ అని శ్రీశ్రీ చమత్కరిస్తూ ఉండేవారు. ..."

Approx. English gist: After marriage, Ramanamma gAru and I used to be in the same street. There is no animosity between me and her. ShriShri used to joke: "If you both are kept in a balance, ... both will be weighed equally ..."

Approx. Hindi gist: विवाह के बाद, रमणम्माजी और मै, एक ही बजार में रहती थीं। हम दोनों मध्य कुछ वैरुध्य भी नहीं था। श्रीश्री हास करते थे, "तुम दोनो कों एक तराजू में रख कर तोले तो, दोनों समान रूप से तौला जायेगी ....। "


ybrao-a-donkey's humble perceptions वैबीराव गधे के विनम्र अनुशीलनाएँ और भावनाएँ వైబీరావు గాడిద వినమ్ర అభిప్రాయాలు

I suggest and hope that Andhra Jyothi newspaper will also interview Mrs. Ramanamma gAru, the first wife of SriSri, and publish it, provided she is willing to contribute.

मै यह प्रार्धना और आशा कर रहा हूँ, कि आंध्र ज्योती दैनिक, महाकवी श्रीश्री के प्रथम पत्नी श्रीमति रमणम्माजी की साक्षात्कार को भी चॆन्नै से मंघा कर प्रचुरित करेगा।

నా ప్రార్ధన మరియు ఆకాంక్ష ఏమిటంటే, శ్రీ ఆంధ్రజ్యోతి దినపత్రికవారు మహాకవి శ్రీశ్రీ గారి ప్రథమ పత్ని శ్రీమతి రమణమ్మగారితో ఇంటర్వ్యూని కూడ సంపాదించి ప్రచురిస్తే, ఈవృత్తం సంపూర్ణం అవుతుంది.

Then only, we can know, for certainty, that both pans of the balance weigh equally.

तब ही हमारे को प्रस्फुट हो जायेगा कि, तराजू के दोनों तरफ एक ही वजन दिखाया जा रहा है।

అపుడే మనకి ప్రస్ఫుటం అవుతుంది, తరాజు లోని రెండు పళ్ళాలూ ఒకే బరువుని చూపిస్తున్నాయని.

Incomplete. To continue & revise thoroughly. అసంపూర్ణం. త్వరలో పూర్తిచేస్తాను,అవసరమైతే సంస్కరిస్తాను. असंपूर्ण. स्वल्प काल में पूरा करने केलिये कोशिश करूँगा। जरूरत पडे, पुनर संस्कार करूँगा।

Thursday, May 7, 2015

503 Part 2 of "Grow hair in maternal uncle's ears" भाग २ क्या मामा के कानों में बाल अंकुरित हुआ तो काफी है ? భాగం 2 మేనమామ చెవిలో వెంట్రుకలు మొలిస్తే సరిపోతుందా?


Is Hero Shivaji's fast really fruitful? क्या हीरो शिवाजी के आमरण निराहर दीक्षा फलप्रद हुआँ ? హీరో శివాజీ గారి ఆమరణ నిరాహార దీక్ష ఫల ప్రదం అయిందా ? In continuation of post No. 438 Will it be sufficient if hair sprouts in the ears of maternal uncle? क्या मामा के कानों में बाल अंकुरित हुआ तो काफी है ? మేనమామ చెవిలో వెంట్రుకలు మొలిస్తే సరిపోతుందా? Click if you want to read http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/438

Honestly speaking or writing, Telangana or Residual Andhra Pradesh are not States which deserve a Special Status, like the Arunachal Pradesh. Telangana and Residual A.P. States fall in the average category of development. If the claims of T and AP are to be entertained, out of 29 States in India, 20 States deserve to be given Special Status, in which case the very objective of giving Special Status will be defeated. Of course, for political reasons the previous UPA Govt. might have granted Special Status to one or two undeserving States. Removing their special status is also not practicable because such removals will lead to claims of triggering political vendetta. It will also engulf new flames of Regional Politics. Best thing seems to be, to continue Status quo ante.

The people of Residual Andhra Pradesh also, originally did not ask for Special Status. Offering Special Status to Residual A.P., without closely examining whether it is really possible without harming national integration, was the conspiracy of the BJP and Congress, both of whom were intent to win over Telangana. All the National BJP leaders claimed credit for successfully dissecting United Andhra Pradesh, by providing for Special Status to Residual A.P. In the process, they not only ditched the people of Residual A.P., but also fell into a ditch dug by KCR & Co.

People of Residual A.P. were not against the bifurcation of the State. Mainly, for this reason only Mr. Kiran Kumar Reddy could not win his 2014 elections, with the Samaikyandhra slogan. The People of Residual A.P. were against the unjust Division imposed on A.P. The unjustness arose because Hyderabad City was developed using billions of Rupees of both Central and State funds, apart from the private funds of people of both the areas. In other words, Hyderabad City is a National Asset and not the Private Asset of Residents of Hyderabad or Karimnagar or Warangal. The people of Residual A.P. correctly foresaw (Kiran Kumar Reddy too) that KCR & Co. was going to win, and that he was going to unleash series of steps to drive out people of Residual A.P. from Hyderabad City. Events subsequent to the Division also prove that these apprehensions were not unfounded. KCR has clearly pronounced his mind to drive out what he called "AndhrOLLu" (See blog post No. 324 where his speech to Telangana Officials was reproduced in full Click to go to http://problemsoftelugus.blogspot.com/search/label/324 .

How the Big Goddess and the Small God fell in the ditch dug by KCR!

Leaders of Residual A.P. met Mr. Rahul Gandhi and Mrs. Sonia Gandhi several times (some times they could get an interview of the big Goddess and small God, and sometimes, they could not get). The big Goddess and the small God, simply became deaf and blind. They wanted to satisfy only T Congress leaders, and merge TRS into Congress, even if people of Residual A.P. are condemned to hell. It is how the Big Goddess and the Small God fell in the ditch dug by KCR & Co. Did KCR merge TRS in Congress? No! To satisfy KCR, they sacrificed the goat i.e. Seemandhra, through a butcherous bifurcation.

Dynastic Prince Rahul Gandhi forgot about democracy!

Today, Rahul Gandhi, is trying to trace the coins he lost on the grounds of Residual A.P. Without knowing his blunderous callousness, he is blaming that he made Kiran Kumar Reddy as CM by mistake! Rahul's real mistake was imposing a CM from Delhi. Democracy requires that M.L.As have to elect their leaders in their own Legislative Party Meeting. Had Mr. Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi allowed the Congress M.L.As. to elect their own leader in a secret ballot, today, this need for fake remorse would not have arisen.

Of course, Rahul Gandhi or Sonia Gandhi with their 40 MPs cannot bring Special Status to Residual Andhra Pradesh, while their ex MLAs and ex MPs at field level make some noise.

When it comes to the leaders of Residual A.P., there is little to be said because most of them have turned out to be realtors and businessmen, engaged in money-making, obtaining co-operation from the TDP and Central BJP. Their role was always that of serfs to Delhi bosses, even before separation.

Now, Hero Shivaji has ventured on a fast-unto-death, which lasted about four days as expected, after which the Police broke it and got him admitted in Hospital, everything happened as expected. In the process, Mr. Shivaji also got some publicity.

We know that Center will not move an inch, even if all the parties in Residual A.P. start a movement. At the most, they will design more deceptive plans and impose on the people.


WASTE OF RESOURCES, STAFF AND TIME ON A FUTILE ADVENTURE

What should concern us the most, are the- waste of Police time, Revenue time, and the Media time, Hospital Doctors' precious time, by Hero Shivaji's fast. For attending to an unnecessarily become-sick patient Mr. Shivaji, Doctors have to neglect at least ten genuine patients, or handicap / partially close some OP Dept., or some other ward. Police, instead of using their time on preventing crimes, had to spend their time guarding Mr. Shivaji, and controlling his crowds. Media instead of collecting more serious news relating to poverty, drought, agricultural marketing etc. had to attend on the progress reports of Mr. Shivaji's health.

There is actually no need for indefinite fasts-unto-death now, which are anyway going to be halted by Police.

Such fasts had great value, in the freedom movement, because at that time, there was a need to employ every possible weapon to irk the British rulers. Now, there is no such dire need.

MODERN SHIVAJI VS. MODERN NEHHRU

One Numerologist by name (Mr.) Nehhru B.E. (Mech) claimed on a TV channel, in his sponsored program that he advised on numerological matters to Shivaji, and advised him not to use the spelling Sivaji. We, the readers may not know, the actual spelling of the real name of Sivaji, and the correct spelling we have to use. Our apologies to him for mis-spelling his name. We do not know what spelling, the Great Maharashtrian Hero of 1674, Chatrapati Sivaji (Shivaji? or Shivajee?) would have preferred to spell his own name. Though Britishers had during Jahangir's tenure, already established their Fort in Surat, we do not know clearly the nature of interactions between Chatrapati Sivaji and the East India Company, Surat. Our TV Nehhruu B.Tech (Mech)'s Numerology is based on English spelling. Why numerology does not work on the number of Telugu letters, Marathi letters, Hindi letters in a name: శివాజీ 3 letters. Why should Telugu people change their names?

Late Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India, may be turning in his grave (if souls exist and if they are imprisoned in graves-- of course, souls do not exist, to turn themselves in graves), to know that in 21st Century, there would be another Nehru with a different English spelling Nehhru , assuring gullible viewers that everything would be alright if they change the spelling of their names, or write their names 22 times everyday, or cut their names e.g. Boddapati Sundeep Kumar, just to Sundeep.

I get a feeling that I am living in ErragaDDa pAgal khAna. Of course, KCR & Co. will not allow me to stay there and get treatment, if he comes to know that I am an "AndhrODu", as he had made up his mind to reserve all the seats in the lunatic azylum, only to those who were born in Telangana before 1956.