974 I hold on to my Theory of Aryan Migration to India from Latvia-Lithuania-Scandinavia, but I am unable to spend more time on it

A learned friend of ours has sent a lengthy text+pictured Email, with the title 'Aryan Invasion Myth: How 21st Century Science Debunks 19th Century Indology'. His objective seems to be to prove that Aryans were natives of India, that they spread to all parts of the globe, including Europe, that they were not invaders into India. Sadly, I have no time to spend more intensely on that matter, because I wish to keep my focus more on Communism/Marxism and, True Total Socialism, because India is densely overpopulated, and we have to find solutions or the problems of Poor and Middle Classes who form 99% of India's population. My friend has not sent any link to the Article, probably because he has pasted entire essay into the Email message. However, for the benefit of my Readers, I have googled it, and I provide the link here: Click here to go to http://indiafacts.org/aryan-invasion-myth-21st-century-science-debunks-19th-century-indology/. I am not supporting or opposing whatever has been propounded in the linked article. Aryan Invasion Theory may not / need not be correct. However, there are many reasons to believe that though not plain overt invasions, Aryan migrations have taken places into India, OVER CENTURIES, IN SMALL GROUPs, with herds of cows, protected on both sides by hearses. And these migrations might have taken place through several routes such as 1. Scandinavan-Baltic_Balcan-BlackSea-FiveSthans of Russia, Afghanisthan, 2. Baltics-Balkans-Babylonian-Balochisthan. 3. Baltics-Balkans-Iran-Sindh-Pakisthan. 4.South Europe-Mediterranean, Egypt-Sudan, Somalia-Ithiopia, Red Sea, Arabian Sea, West Coast of India etc.
The Text and photos sent by my friend, as well as the above linked website contains a picture of Goddess 'Danu' of Irish & Celtic origin.
The above image, seems to be a book cover.

The Linked Article has an image which contains some comparative Iranian and Sanskrit names.

I am reproducing them below in English Script, for future use of our Readers:

The original non-Hellenized names of Ancient Persian Kings, Achaemend Dynasty, c550-330 BCE.
Iranian/Persian name	Sanskrit
Achaemenes	Hakhsa-Manish
Aria ramnes	Arya Ramna
Cyaxares	Uva-Kshatra
Cyrus the Great	Kurush Vazraka
Cambyses	Kambujiya
Hystapses	Visht-Aspa
Darius	DAraya-Vahus
Xerxes	Kshay-Arsha
Artaxerxes	Arta-Kshatra

ybrao-a-donkey's views which are not intended to be imposed on others

Danu might have been a part of Indo European Gods and Goddesses, among whom we have Vishn and Laime. I have already written many times, that Danavas (includes Ravana) were Aryans. dAnavas and asuras might have migrated to India through Iranian route.

If Aryans were FROM THE BEGINNING NATIVES OF INDIA as advocated often, Indian society ought to have TREATED BLACK AND BROWN AS COLORS OF BEAUTY, and there should not be preference for WHITE GIRLS IN MARRIAGES, which is prevailing even now. Fair & Lovely Skin Creams could not have found markets. Preference for 'white' arose because, Migrant European Aryans (from all the routes described above) were whites, and they considered themselves as upper castes white in color. Why blacks and browns were not treated as Upper castes? Aryans did not want mixing of colors (varNa sankaram).

As the strength of Aryan white population in India increased, they started dominating Indian Natives, leading to creation of upper castes (white, red, yellow) and lower castes (brown, black), and outcast-es. Subsequently, hybridization took place. Now we cannot make racial distinctions, though some BJP leaders such as Mr. Tarun Vijay, seem to have a view that North Indians were whiter, fairer Aryans, and hence they are superior in physical strength and intellect, and South Indians, North-East Indians are coloreds and of inferior race and intellect. This is a misplaced belief. Fortunately, Mr. Tarun Vijay went back from his hastily made mis-expression. Top-to-bottom, today's Indians are hybrids between Migrants and Natives. Trying to create racial differences will lead to fissures and civil wars in India. Our efforts should always be to integrate.

It will be waste of time and resources for India, to undertake excess-research on whether Aryans came into India, or they went out of India

India should concentrate more on its Poverty, and the inequalities of income, wealth, living conditions, working conditions.

Question: If as you say Aryans were whites, and they treated Whites of Superior, then, how is it that Shri Rama and Shri Krishna were blacks?

Ans: Political needs, Financial needs, Military needs, Strategic Needs. Original Aryan Whites cannot rule, and could not have ruled an expansive and culturally-massive, difficult to traverse India, without help from native blacks/browns, consistently for a long time. (Akbar knew it). It is absolutely impossible, in spite of having horses/bow-and-arrows/guns-cannons. Pandavas were white (pAnDu rAja=pale white king). Arjuna was white (Arjuna=white color). Arjuna did not want varNa sankaram, pollution of colors and races. But, he depended for all his needs on Native Srikrishna. Arjuna could not have survived without help from Sri Krishna, who, according to impressions created by preachers, had miraculous powers which Arjuna wanted to benefit from. Soon after death of Sri Krishna, Arjuna went to Dwaraka to bring Yadava Women to Hastinapur (Gujarat to U.P.), with all their gold and precious stones. See Mausla Parvam of Sanskrit Mahabharata. On the way, i.e. Gujarat to UP, Arjuna was attacked by AbhIrAs. There was no Krishna, he passed away. Arjuna was helpless. His Great Bow GAnDIva did not work. His magical astras (weapons of magic chants) did not work. Abhiras robbed Arjuna, his accompanying Yadava women, thoroughly. Arjuna reached Hastinapur, empty-handed. Arjuna realised he was a big zero, without Krishna. Yudhishthira too might have realised. After some years, the Five Pandavas, and their wife draupadi started on a mountain trek into Himalayas. Where they might have wanted to go? To Europe through the Tibet (trivisHTapam in Sanskrit), Five Sthan route? On the way, unable to climb the mountains, everybody except YudhishThira died. Yudhishthira and a dog reached Heaven. This may be Tibet, or even be Baltics!, their original Mother Land. A day in Heavens i.e. the Day of the 'Deivas' (Gods) has six months light (day) and six months darkness (night). Where do we have this heaven. It can be Norway or Sweden. i.e. our Indo-European Prototype land.

Reasons for some persons being white and some persons being black.

The name Krishna for draupadi (draupadi's one name, her original name being yAgna sEni), may be an indication that she had a black/brown complexion. Drupada might have been an Aryan-migrant-white king, with both white and black queens. Draupadi (Krishna) might have been a hybrid. Among siblings, some can be white, some can be black/brown. Only Mendel's Theory can answer this type of conundrums. Mahabharata period might have been an age of mixing, and hybridization, unlike Ramayana. In Ramayana both Shri Rama and Ravana might have been white, while vAnarAs might have been black/brown.

Aryan Kings allowed hybridization to the extent they wanted, while their white-Brahmin Counterparts did not want. Brahmins might have wanted to bestow-breed children to the White-Kshatriya women (i.e. white->white->white breeding , instead of allowing hybridization (white->black/brown-mixed color breeding, especially white women getting pregnant through black/brown husbands. This is called vilOma).

Question: Say categorically, whether Shri Rama was white or black/brown or hybrid?

Sorry, this question cannot be answered. My personal belief: Shri Rama might have been of any color, probably even white.

What is more important: Our mythological stories (ithihasas, purANAs) were at first sung as ballads in temples, several centuries were spent through oral traditions. When writing on palm-leaves, copper-plates, stones etc. started taking shape, at many places black/brown kings might have come to power. Most migrant white kings and warriors (kshatriyas) might have been killed in battles with Scythians, Kushans, Huns, Sakas etc. and the White, red Warrior population might have got reduced. When black/brown kings became more dominant and powerful, some king in the new ruling clans might have INSISTED that their Ancestor Shri Rama (may be of Kosala, Maha Kosala origin in Bihar, Jharkhand, North Odisa, North-East Chattisgadh) as a handsome Prince of Black/Brown complexion. That tradition might have continued. But still in several North Indian Temples we see marble white statues/idols/deities of white color. In some South Indian Temples, where marble is scarce, black granite, red sand stone, gray feldspar, light green-white limestone, idols, sculptures can also be found. Hence, we need not regard Shri Rama as really black/brown person. He could as well have been White. There might have even been more than one Shri Ramas, one in UP, one in Bihar so on... ...

It will be better in the interest of India, to keep this discussion at rest for sometime, till further credible solid evidence can be found.

Speculating on these mythological/semi historical questions will be extremely risky and dangerous. Reason: There are Readers with delicate sentiments, which may be hurt. If that happens, futile disputes will arise. Hence, I am averse to more speculations.

EVEN IN 21ST CENTURY HISTORIES GET RE-EMPHASIZED, RE-WRITTEN

When Nehru dynasty was ruling India, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi were demy Gods. When BJP came into power, Gods have changed. Now, Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, Shyam Prasad Mukherjee are the Gods. Shri Vajpayee and Shri Narendra Modi will be added later. Whether Shri Advani will be added to Gods, it is difficult to answer. If CPM comes into power, Prakash Karat or Sitaram Yechury may become Gods. Whether Jyothi Basu, Nambudripad, Sundaraiah will be added or not, it will be a question of lottery. Futurologically, anybody can become a God-- Mulayam Singh Yadav, Lalu Prasad Yadav, Ms. Mamata Banerjee. Gandhiji had lost his place in the pantheon.

EUROPE NOT INTERESTED IN ITS HISTORY BEYOND JESUS CHRIST, AND ROMANS

Christianity and Romans buried the Ancient European History, and destroyd it to nearly irretrievable levels. But still, where there is a will, there shall be a way. But there is no Will, because Christian Churches and Missionaries will not allow digging European Histories of Pre-Christian Era. Digging pre-Christian European Histories, may bring to light the Regional Cultures of different countries in Europe. These cultures, Christian Churches call 'pagan'. And some of these cultures may be more humane, more civilised, less barbaric than Christianity of various hues. If those ancient cultures revive, how can Christianity tolerate their survival side-by-side?

What Christianity wants is, to spread its religion to the Whole Earth, annihilating all cultures and religions. For them, spreading religion is a Commercial Business. For spreading religion, Europeans and Americans will not hesitate to make air-raids, throw Mother of All Bombs, use nuclear weapons etc. on other Sovereign Nations on some pretext or other.

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773 White-red-yellow-black conundrum and syndrome

This is a Thai Fair & Lovely Advertisement for a face cream: "...Just being white is enough to make you win. ..." . Though this advertisement might have been intended for Thai audience, a similar environment prevails in India too, where 'white' body color commands premium, and black body color is discounted. This applies to both sexes, although "money" is more important than the body color. In other words, we can say- other things being equal अन्य बातों के समान Ceteris Paribus, white body color is preferred.

From the body color point of view, India is "a hybrid grey or wheat complexion". Being a country of hot climate, Indians have lot of melanin in their skins, though may not be in the same magnitude as in the Equatorial Central Africa. When compared to Kashmir which is on the extreme North, the melanin content in skins of people who reside in Kerala and South Tamil Nadu may tend to be more, and consequently people may become dark complexioned. Thus, everything connected to body color has got to do with climate, rather than raciality. When people migrate from y hotte regions to colder regions or vice versa, the changes in melanin content in their bodies may also take a few generations, and a few Centuries to undergo the adaptation to the new environment. In the meantime, those who have migrated from a colder environment, and with a whiter body color may feel that they have descended from heaven or sky, and act with condescension towards natives of the migrated land. Sometimes, the natives may also feel or suffer from an inferiority complex for their darker body colors.

Recently, there was a heated argument on TV Channels between one Dr. Kancha Ilaiah, a Professor of Political Science, at Maulana Azad University, and local 21st Century Brahmins. It appears that Mr. Ilaiah has called Brahmins 'lazy' or work-shy. In one letter to Editor, I found that he added a suffix "shepherd" to his name, to indicate that he is from a shepherd community. Whatever may be the reason for the deep-rooted hatred of Dr. Ilaiah towards Brahmin Community, he ought not to have made a generalised-sweeping comment against a whole Community of 21st Century which is different from the Vedic or Puranic Brahmin Community of some 2000 years B.C.

In that T.V. discussion, the self-appointed defendent of the Brahmin Community argued that there was no discrimination in India, on the basis of color. As a proof he said that Rama and Krishna, though of black body color are worshipped as Gods.

I have earlier covered a part of this body color topic, by quoting from Sanskrit Vyasa Mahabharat, as an additional piece of evidence that Aryans migrated to India from North Europe. In the particular set of Mahabharata verses, Brahmins were said to have a white body color, kshatriyas (warriors) a red body color, Vysyas (traders, partly cultivators) an yellow body color, SUdrAs (servants) a black body color. More interested readers can have a look at our blogpost 081 click here, to go to 081 if interested

వ్యాస భారతం, సంస్కృతం, శాంతి పర్వం, 181వ ఆధ్యాయం (ప్రతిని బట్టి స్వల్పంగా నంబర్ మారచ్చు), 5వ శ్లోకం. vyAsa mahAbhArata, Sanskrit language, Volume 12 Santi Parva, Chapter 181 AdhyAyam, Verse 005. This verse No. and chapter No. may vary depending on the edition and version of the book.

--Santi Parva 181 005 (bhrigu explained to bharadvAja):

brahmaNAnAm sito varNah
kshatriyANAm tu lohitah-
vaiSyAnAm pItako varNah
SUdrANAm asitas tathA

brahmins white color. kshatriyas red color. vaisyas yellow color. sUdras black color.

బ్రాహ్మణానాం సితో వర్ణః ब्राह्मणानां सितो वर्णः
క్షత్రియాణాం లోహితః क्षत्रियाणां लोहितः
వైశ్యానాం పీతకో वैश्यानां पीतको
శూద్రానాం అసితస్ తథా. शूद्रानां असितस तथा.

శ్లోకసారం: బ్రాహ్మణులది తెలుపు రంగు. క్షత్రియులది ఎరుపు రంగు. వైశ్యులది పసుపు రంగు. శూద్రులది నలుపు రంగు. श्लोक सारः - ब्राह्मणों के देह वर्ण सफेद। क्षत्रियों के शरीर वर्ण अरुण। वैश्यों के शरीर वर्ण हरा (पीतल) । शूद्रों के शरीर वर्ण श्याम (काला) ।

It is necessary to resolve this conflict or paradox, how white Aryan Scriptures Valmiki Ramayan, Vyasa Mahabharata, Vyasa Mahabhagavata, deify and eulogise black kings and warriors as Supreme Gods.

About color of stone idols in Indian Temples, "availability of suitable stone for carving" decides the color of the stone deities installed in temples. For this reason only, South Indian Temples of black granite idols. Temples in Rajasthan, U.P., and Bihar use more white marble. Some red sand stone idols can also be found. Anyway, the composition of the stone available for sculpting has influenced the color of the temple deities. We cannot read much more into these.

I request my readers not to misunderstand me. This is only a guesswork, or a semi-acceptable approximation. This is an intermediate state of our exploration of truth. Later, we may have to go back from our analyses, when new evidence is found.

The legendary and mythological Epic Hero Arjuna, took pride in his white body color.

Volume 4, Chapter 43, Verse 33. VyAsa mahAbhArata Sanskrit, virATa parva, AdhyAya 43, SlOka 33.
పృథివ్యాం సాగరాంతాయాం पृथ्वियां सागरांतां
వర్ణో మే దుర్లభః సమః वर्णो मे दुर्लभः समः
శుద్ధత్వాద్రూపవత్త్వాచ్చ తేన शुध्धत्वाद द्रूपवत्तात च तेन
మామార్జునం విదుః माम अर्जुनं विदुः ॥ 4-43-33

Roman Script: prithivyAm sAgarAmtAyAm
varNO mE durlabhaha samaha
SudhdhatvA drUpavat tvAcatEna mAm arjunam viduhu.

English gist: Till the horizon, till the end of the boundaries of oceans, nobody exists who is equal in 'color' to me; in purity (of body color, obviously) or in handsomeness. Hence, I am known as Arjuna.

Question: When Arjuna is so white, how is it that his brother-in-law, Krishna was black in color?

We may have to make some temporary (provisional) reasonable approximations (guesswork) till better evidence is traced.

Here, we should make a distinction between the Nordic (North European, Baltic) Aryan migrants of about 6000 B.C. and the Post Vascodigama European White invaders of the 16th Century C.E. The 6000 B.C. Aryan migrants to India did not have fire weapons such as guns and mortars. They were fireworshippers, and they depended on firegod for their rescue. They used to send all offering to their Supreme God Visn through the fire Gods. They expected their protection and victories through Sacred Chants. Though maces, swords were not taboo, they depended more for their defence and offence on arrows and darts. With simple arrows and darts, they were not sure of their victories.

They self-convinced themselves that their arrows and darts, sent out while uttering the sacred chants had special powers, bolstered by the supernatural powers of the Gods they were inviting to travel along with the arrows and darts. Brahma (creator), VaishNava or nArAyana (Visn), pASupata (Shiva), vAruNa (Rain God), AgnEya (Fire God) etc. were all such magic chanted. They also proclaimed loudly the magical powers of their enchanted arrows, to intimidate their enemies. When white Aryans said these things, native Indians gradually developed a habit of believing in them. These beliefs seemed to have continued till the 14th Century CE, i.e. till the defeat of Kakatiya King Pratapa Rudra II, in the hands of Delhi Sultan invaders.

This dependence of Indians on arrows and darts supported by magic chants, has underwent some examination in the hands of Sir Arthur Connon Doyle in his Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. As far as I can recollect, the villain in that Sherlock Holmes episode depended on use of darts, in a boat squirmish. I shall try to give here, a link to that Sherlock Holmes adventure, which is interesting to read.

All the original migrants of the 6000 BC from Nordics, might have classified themselves as Brahmins, with Supreme sacred chant enchanted arrows and darts (these are called astras in Sanskrit). They were few in numbers. Had they come to India with guns, Indian history might have been totally different. White servants of the White Brahmins were white kshatriyas, and were regarded as warriors, to defend their white masters, white Brahmins. The white Kshatriyas were given limited access to vEdas and magic chants of arrows and darts.

They did not want to inter-breed with Indian natives who were wheatish and black. In the internecine battles between Nordics and South European migrants through Egypt-Ethiopian-Arabian Sea route (these were phallus worshippers), gradually white warriors died. Some white Brahmins too died.

Gradually white migrants both Nordics and South European whites, realised that there was a need to admit red, yellow and black Indians into the Aryan Society. Thus, we have got the red kshatriyas (soldiers), yellow vysyas, black SUdras, described in the Vyasa Mahabharata verse quoted above.

MUTUAL DEPENDENCE OF WHITE ARJUNA AND BLACK KRISHNA

Krishna has demonstrated (made people to believe) that he has some super-human super-natural powers. White Arjuna wanted to derive benefits from these superhumans powers of Krishna, and became his brother-in-law, by marrying his sister Subhadra. Krishna was aware though he has his weapon special-boomarang (Sanskrit: cakra), he did not have the arrows-darts with magical chants such as pAsupata, brahmAstra. Krishna wanted to become a relative of white rulers, to which Arjuna belongs. Thus, their interdependence started. It ended with the Mixed Breed Prince (White Arjuna+ Black Subhadra = mixed breed Abhimanyu, and his son parIkshit) becoming the ultimate successor to the throne. King Parikshit had an early death, owing to a snake bite. Mahabhagavata is the gist of preachings by Sage Suka to King Parikshit. Son of Parikshit, Janamejaya had a deep-rooted hatred towards snakes. The Epic Mahabharata is a narration by Vyasa's disciple VaiSampAyana to JanamEjaya. Naturally, it sings the paeans of their principal ancestors Arjuna and Krishna.

Krishna knew that becoming a brother-in-law of white Arjuna, was to their mutual advantage, because alone he could not get rid of his bete noir Jarasantha. By giving his sister Subhadra to Arjuna, Krishna could not only get rid of Jarasantha with the help of Arjuna's brother Bhima, but also ultimately he could make his nephew Abhimanyu's son Parikshit, succeed to the Kuru Dynasty.

QUESTION: HOW DID BLACK KRISHNA BECAME GOD?

With not much further migrations from Nordics and South Europe, white warriors gradually died out, while the While white Brahmins survived without participating in battles. With their self-claims and self-glories magic chants, they strengthened themselves as agents between Gods and Humans, conducting sacrifices, sending prayers to Gods in Sanskrit langauge, in exchange for gold, cows, houses, and cash.

The place of the White Warriors has been occupied by Red-yellow-black warriors. When Yadava Kings have started dominating the Malva Region (present day Rajasthan, Gujarat, Western MP, Hariyana), Krishna's role in Mahabharata and Maha Bhagavata has been raised multi-fold and Arjuna was partially reduced to servility to Krishna.

About Arjuna's racial and body-color-consciousness, we have to write more. To continue.

Subject to corrections and deletions. A lot more is to be added. To continue. सशेष. ఇంకా ఉంది.