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Friday, May 5, 2017

974 I hold on to my Theory of Aryan Migration to India from Latvia-Lithuania-Scandinavia, but I am unable to spend more time on it


A learned friend of ours has sent a lengthy text+pictured Email, with the title 'Aryan Invasion Myth: How 21st Century Science Debunks 19th Century Indology'. His objective seems to be to prove that Aryans were natives of India, that they spread to all parts of the globe, including Europe, that they were not invaders into India. Sadly, I have no time to spend more intensely on that matter, because I wish to keep my focus more on Communism/Marxism and, True Total Socialism, because India is densely overpopulated, and we have to find solutions or the problems of Poor and Middle Classes who form 99% of India's population. My friend has not sent any link to the Article, probably because he has pasted entire essay into the Email message. However, for the benefit of my Readers, I have googled it, and I provide the link here: Click here to go to http://indiafacts.org/aryan-invasion-myth-21st-century-science-debunks-19th-century-indology/. I am not supporting or opposing whatever has been propounded in the linked article. Aryan Invasion Theory may not / need not be correct. However, there are many reasons to believe that though not plain overt invasions, Aryan migrations have taken places into India, OVER CENTURIES, IN SMALL GROUPs, with herds of cows, protected on both sides by hearses. And these migrations might have taken place through several routes such as 1. Scandinavan-Baltic_Balcan-BlackSea-FiveSthans of Russia, Afghanisthan, 2. Baltics-Balkans-Babylonian-Balochisthan. 3. Baltics-Balkans-Iran-Sindh-Pakisthan. 4.South Europe-Mediterranean, Egypt-Sudan, Somalia-Ithiopia, Red Sea, Arabian Sea, West Coast of India etc.
The Text and photos sent by my friend, as well as the above linked website contains a picture of Goddess 'Danu' of Irish & Celtic origin.
The above image, seems to be a book cover.

The Linked Article has an image which contains some comparative Iranian and Sanskrit names.


I am reproducing them below in English Script, for future use of our Readers:
The original non-Hellenized names of Ancient Persian Kings, Achaemend Dynasty, c550-330 BCE.
Iranian/Persian name Sanskrit
AchaemenesHakhsa-Manish
Aria ramnesArya Ramna
CyaxaresUva-Kshatra
Cyrus the GreatKurush Vazraka
CambysesKambujiya
HystapsesVisht-Aspa
DariusDAraya-Vahus
XerxesKshay-Arsha
ArtaxerxesArta-Kshatra




ybrao-a-donkey's views which are not intended to be imposed on others


Danu might have been a part of Indo European Gods and Goddesses, among whom we have Vishn and Laime. I have already written many times, that Danavas (includes Ravana) were Aryans. dAnavas and asuras might have migrated to India through Iranian route.

If Aryans were FROM THE BEGINNING NATIVES OF INDIA as advocated often, Indian society ought to have TREATED BLACK AND BROWN AS COLORS OF BEAUTY, and there should not be preference for WHITE GIRLS IN MARRIAGES, which is prevailing even now. Fair & Lovely Skin Creams could not have found markets. Preference for 'white' arose because, Migrant European Aryans (from all the routes described above) were whites, and they considered themselves as upper castes white in color. Why blacks and browns were not treated as Upper castes? Aryans did not want mixing of colors (varNa sankaram).

As the strength of Aryan white population in India increased, they started dominating Indian Natives, leading to creation of upper castes (white, red, yellow) and lower castes (brown, black), and outcast-es. Subsequently, hybridization took place. Now we cannot make racial distinctions, though some BJP leaders such as Mr. Tarun Vijay, seem to have a view that North Indians were whiter, fairer Aryans, and hence they are superior in physical strength and intellect, and South Indians, North-East Indians are coloreds and of inferior race and intellect. This is a misplaced belief. Fortunately, Mr. Tarun Vijay went back from his hastily made mis-expression. Top-to-bottom, today's Indians are hybrids between Migrants and Natives. Trying to create racial differences will lead to fissures and civil wars in India. Our efforts should always be to integrate.

It will be waste of time and resources for India, to undertake excess-research on whether Aryans came into India, or they went out of India


India should concentrate more on its Poverty, and the inequalities of income, wealth, living conditions, working conditions.

Question: If as you say Aryans were whites, and they treated Whites of Superior, then, how is it that Shri Rama and Shri Krishna were blacks?


Ans: Political needs, Financial needs, Military needs, Strategic Needs. Original Aryan Whites cannot rule, and could not have ruled an expansive and culturally-massive, difficult to traverse India, without help from native blacks/browns, consistently for a long time. (Akbar knew it). It is absolutely impossible, in spite of having horses/bow-and-arrows/guns-cannons. Pandavas were white (pAnDu rAja=pale white king). Arjuna was white (Arjuna=white color). Arjuna did not want varNa sankaram, pollution of colors and races. But, he depended for all his needs on Native Srikrishna. Arjuna could not have survived without help from Sri Krishna, who, according to impressions created by preachers, had miraculous powers which Arjuna wanted to benefit from. Soon after death of Sri Krishna, Arjuna went to Dwaraka to bring Yadava Women to Hastinapur (Gujarat to U.P.), with all their gold and precious stones. See Mausla Parvam of Sanskrit Mahabharata. On the way, i.e. Gujarat to UP, Arjuna was attacked by AbhIrAs. There was no Krishna, he passed away. Arjuna was helpless. His Great Bow GAnDIva did not work. His magical astras (weapons of magic chants) did not work. Abhiras robbed Arjuna, his accompanying Yadava women, thoroughly. Arjuna reached Hastinapur, empty-handed. Arjuna realised he was a big zero, without Krishna. Yudhishthira too might have realised. After some years, the Five Pandavas, and their wife draupadi started on a mountain trek into Himalayas. Where they might have wanted to go? To Europe through the Tibet (trivisHTapam in Sanskrit), Five Sthan route? On the way, unable to climb the mountains, everybody except YudhishThira died. Yudhishthira and a dog reached Heaven. This may be Tibet, or even be Baltics!, their original Mother Land. A day in Heavens i.e. the Day of the 'Deivas' (Gods) has six months light (day) and six months darkness (night). Where do we have this heaven. It can be Norway or Sweden. i.e. our Indo-European Prototype land.

Reasons for some persons being white and some persons being black.


The name Krishna for draupadi (draupadi's one name, her original name being yAgna sEni), may be an indication that she had a black/brown complexion. Drupada might have been an Aryan-migrant-white king, with both white and black queens. Draupadi (Krishna) might have been a hybrid. Among siblings, some can be white, some can be black/brown. Only Mendel's Theory can answer this type of conundrums. Mahabharata period might have been an age of mixing, and hybridization, unlike Ramayana. In Ramayana both Shri Rama and Ravana might have been white, while vAnarAs might have been black/brown.

Aryan Kings allowed hybridization to the extent they wanted, while their white-Brahmin Counterparts did not want. Brahmins might have wanted to bestow-breed children to the White-Kshatriya women (i.e. white->white->white breeding , instead of allowing hybridization (white->black/brown-mixed color breeding, especially white women getting pregnant through black/brown husbands. This is called vilOma).

Question: Say categorically, whether Shri Rama was white or black/brown or hybrid?


Sorry, this question cannot be answered. My personal belief: Shri Rama might have been of any color, probably even white.

What is more important: Our mythological stories (ithihasas, purANAs) were at first sung as ballads in temples, several centuries were spent through oral traditions. When writing on palm-leaves, copper-plates, stones etc. started taking shape, at many places black/brown kings might have come to power. Most migrant white kings and warriors (kshatriyas) might have been killed in battles with Scythians, Kushans, Huns, Sakas etc. and the White, red Warrior population might have got reduced. When black/brown kings became more dominant and powerful, some king in the new ruling clans might have INSISTED that their Ancestor Shri Rama (may be of Kosala, Maha Kosala origin in Bihar, Jharkhand, North Odisa, North-East Chattisgadh) as a handsome Prince of Black/Brown complexion. That tradition might have continued. But still in several North Indian Temples we see marble white statues/idols/deities of white color. In some South Indian Temples, where marble is scarce, black granite, red sand stone, gray feldspar, light green-white limestone, idols, sculptures can also be found. Hence, we need not regard Shri Rama as really black/brown person. He could as well have been White. There might have even been more than one Shri Ramas, one in UP, one in Bihar so on... ...

It will be better in the interest of India, to keep this discussion at rest for sometime, till further credible solid evidence can be found.

Speculating on these mythological/semi historical questions will be extremely risky and dangerous. Reason: There are Readers with delicate sentiments, which may be hurt. If that happens, futile disputes will arise. Hence, I am averse to more speculations.

EVEN IN 21ST CENTURY HISTORIES GET RE-EMPHASIZED, RE-WRITTEN


When Nehru dynasty was ruling India, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi were demy Gods. When BJP came into power, Gods have changed. Now, Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, Shyam Prasad Mukherjee are the Gods. Shri Vajpayee and Shri Narendra Modi will be added later. Whether Shri Advani will be added to Gods, it is difficult to answer. If CPM comes into power, Prakash Karat or Sitaram Yechury may become Gods. Whether Jyothi Basu, Nambudripad, Sundaraiah will be added or not, it will be a question of lottery. Futurologically, anybody can become a God-- Mulayam Singh Yadav, Lalu Prasad Yadav, Ms. Mamata Banerjee. Gandhiji had lost his place in the pantheon.

EUROPE NOT INTERESTED IN ITS HISTORY BEYOND JESUS CHRIST, AND ROMANS


Christianity and Romans buried the Ancient European History, and destroyd it to nearly irretrievable levels. But still, where there is a will, there shall be a way. But there is no Will, because Christian Churches and Missionaries will not allow digging European Histories of Pre-Christian Era. Digging pre-Christian European Histories, may bring to light the Regional Cultures of different countries in Europe. These cultures, Christian Churches call 'pagan'. And some of these cultures may be more humane, more civilised, less barbaric than Christianity of various hues. If those ancient cultures revive, how can Christianity tolerate their survival side-by-side?

What Christianity wants is, to spread its religion to the Whole Earth, annihilating all cultures and religions. For them, spreading religion is a Commercial Business. For spreading religion, Europeans and Americans will not hesitate to make air-raids, throw Mother of All Bombs, use nuclear weapons etc. on other Sovereign Nations on some pretext or other.

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681      |      682      |      683      |      684      |      685      |      686      |      687      |      688      |      689      |      690      |      691      |      692      |      693      |      694      |      695      |      696      |      697      |      698      |      699      |      700      |     


701      |      702      |      703      |      704      |      705      |      706      |      707      |      708      |      709      |      710      |      711      |      712      |      713      |      714      |      715      |      716      |      717      |      718      |      719      |      720      |     
721      |      722      |      723      |      724      |      725      |      726      |      727      |      728      |      729      |      730      |      731      |      732      |      733      |      734      |      735      |      736      |      737      |      738      |      739      |      740      |     
741      |      742      |      743      |      744      |      745      |      746      |      747      |      748      |      749      |      750      |      751      |      752      |      753      |      754      |      755      |      756      |      757      |      758      |      759      |      760      |     
761      |      762      |      763      |      764      |      765      |      766      |      767      |      768      |      769      |      770      |      771      |      772      |      773      |      774      |      775      |      776      |      777      |      778      |      779      |      780      |     
781      |      782      |      783      |      784      |      785      |      786      |      787      |      788      |      789      |      790      |      791      |      792      |      793      |      794      |      795      |      796      |      797      |      798      |      799      |      800      |     

801      |      802      |      803      |      804      |      805      |      806      |      807      |      808      |      809      |      810      |      811      |      812      |      813      |      814      |      815      |      816      |      817      |      818      |      819      |      820      |     
821      |      822      |      823      |      824      |      825      |      826      |      827      |      828      |      829      |      830      |      831      |      832      |      833      |      834      |      835      |      836      |      837      |      838      |      839      |      840      |     
841      |      842      |      843      |      844      |      845      |      846      |      847      |      848      |      849      |      850      |      851      |      852      |      853      |      854      |      855      |      856      |      857      |      858      |      859      |      860      |     
861      |      862      |      863      |      864      |      865      |      866      |      867      |      868      |      869      |      870      |      871      |      872      |      873      |      874      |      875      |      876      |      877      |      878      |      879      |      880      |     
881      |      882      |      883      |      884      |      885      |      886      |      887      |      888      |      889      |      890      |      891      |      892      |      893      |      894      |      895      |      896      |      897      |      898      |      899      |      900      |     


901      |      902      |      903      |      904      |      905      |      906      |      907      |      908      |      909      |      910      |      911      |      912      |      913      |      914      |      915      |      916      |      917      |      918      |      919      |      920      |     
921      |      922      |      923      |      924      |      925      |      926      |      927      |      928      |      929      |      930      |      931      |      932      |      933      |      934      |      935      |      936      |      937      |      938      |      939      |      940      |     
941      |      942      |      943      |      944      |      945      |      946      |      947      |      948      |      949      |      950      |      951      |      952      |      953      |      954      |      955      |      956      |      957      |      958      |      959      |      960      |     
961      |      962      |      963      |      964      |      965      |      966      |      967      |      968      |      969      |      970      |      971      |      972      |      973      |      974      |      975      |      976      |      977      |      978      |      979      |      980      |     
981      |      982      |      983      |      984      |      985      |      986      |      987      |      988      |      989      |      990      |      991      |      992      |      993      |      994      |      995      |      996      |      997      |      998      |      999      |      1000      |     

From 1001 (In gradual progress)

1001      |      1002      |      1003      |      1004      |      1005      |      1006      |      1007      |      1008      |      1009      |     
1010      |           |     
1011      |      1012      |      1013      |      1014      |      1015      |     
1016      |      1017      |      1018      |      1019      |      1020      |     


1021      |      1022      |      1023      |      1024      |      1025      |     
1026      |      1027      |      1028      |      1029      |      1030      |     


     |      1031      |           |      1032      |           |      1033      |           |      1034      |           |      1035      |           |      1036      |      1037      |      1038      |      1039      |      1040      |     


     |      1041      |      1042      |      1043      |           |      1044      |           |      1045      |     


     |      1046      |      1047      |      1048      |           |      1049      |           |      1050      |     

     |      1051      |      1052      |      1053      |           |      1054      |           |      1055      |     
     |      1056      |      1057      |      1058      |           |      1059      |           |      1060      |     
     |      1061      |      1062      |      1063      |           |      1064      |           |      1065      |     
     |      1066      |      1067      |      1067      |      1068      |      1069      |      1069      |      1070      |     
     |      1071      |      1072      |      1073      |      1074      |      1075      |      1076      |     
1077      |      1078      |      1079      |      1080      |     
     |      1081      |      1082      |      1083      |      1084      |      1085      |      1086      |     
1087      |      1088      |      1089      |      1090      |     
     |      1091      |      1092      |      1093      |      1094      |      1095      |      1096      |     
1097      |      1098      |      1099      |      1100      |     
     |      1101      |      1102      |      1103      |      1104      |      1105      |      1106      |     
1107      |      1108      |      1109      |      1110      |