933 Is ham/bacon/pork/wild pig's meat eating compulsory for preventing Tuberculosis?

Indian Media, Intelligentsia, politicians, bureaucrats, public in general think that I.A.S./I.P.S. Officers are geniuses, who have reached that stage topping UPPSC Examinations, and tough interviews. Hence, IAS-IPS Officials whereever they go, flash around beams of superiority, and spray around scents of intellectual supremacy. They spend most of their time bossing over other classes of Government Officials, Business persons, politicians, College Professors, Doctors, technocrats, Bankers, and who else not. In Telugu language, we have a phrase called 'karra pettanam' (approx. English 'bossing over people, with a stick, and without any real physical or intellectual contribution'). Their everyday routine starts with LECTURING AND PREACHING over somebody or other. Sometimes, a few MLAs / MPs of the Ruling Party may beat the IAS-IPS Officials in their bossing sessions, but otherwise, everywhere they are invincible. Proof: Here is one video available on net, where the Collector of Bhupalapalli District, Telangana State, addressing tribals on World T.B. Day, preaching and directing them to hunt wild pigs in nearby forests as they like and have sumptous meals, so as to prevent malnutrition, and TB. IN addition, he also curses an imaginary BRAHMINIC CULTURE, which according to him, is preventing people from eating pigs. Link to watch/download the video: Click here to go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md88ye6a4CQ, for watching/downloading the video.

Some quotes attributed to this Genius Brain, Shri Murali, the Collector of the Jaishankar Bhupalpalli District, Telangana State. Source, Thanks to Hindusthan Times. Click here to go to Hindusthan Times.com and checkup the Report.

“This is a fact. Eating of beef has been our culture for centuries. But later, because of daridrapu (dirty) Brahminical culture, our people were told not to eat beef because it was sin. This is trash. We can eat whatever we had been eating for several centuries to be healthy and fit,” he said.

Murali recalled that when he was working in Mahbubnagar and Ranga Reddy districts, villagers used to tell him that they were not able to eat beef because of ban. “They told me that they had been missing the taste of beef. They complained that when they were eating beef, they were physically strong and were able to do any kind of hard work. After stopping consumption of beef, they said they had become weak,” he said.

The collector was referring to the ban on consumption of meat of wild boars and pork in the name of religious faiths.

“I was told wild boars have been destroying crops in these tribal areas. But I am telling you, you can kill these boars and pigs and happily eat their meat. There is no ban on killing wild boars and the forest department has permitted it. In fact, wild boar meat is a very popular dish in western countries like US,” he pointed out.

ybrao-a-donkey's views, which are not intended to be imposed on others. No malice towards anybody, including beef-eaters, pork eaters.

To eat what, and not to eat what, may be left to the wisdom of individuals, as long as they eat odd-smelling, odd-tasting foods, offensive-smelling foods, foods oozing out blood and muscles, in private places.


There is no culture called 'Brahminic Culture, or Brahmanic Culture', which is a figment of imagination. Besides, cultures vary from place to place, Century to Century, Dynasty to Dynasty, etc.

There may not be anything wrong for a Collector to advise farmers, to kill wild boars destroying their crops. But, strangely, he is asking people to go for freestyle hunting of wild boars. Wreckless hunting of wild animals will be perilous, to the food-chain. If people go for freestyle hunting of wild boars in forests, then nothing will be left in the forests. Wild Boars will become endangered animals and become extinct by 2050.

WILD BOAR HUNTING AND EATING DURING MAHABHARATA PERIOD

Here is a link to my blogpost No. 056 at my blog Mahabharatayb.blogspot.com. Click here to go to Mahabharatayb.blogspot.com/search/label/056 . Quote from the blog:

Vol.2 sabhA parva-02-004-008.
List of VIPs of thosE days, prEsEnt in yudhishThira court.
asito dEvalah satyah sarpamAlI mahASirAh-
arvAvasuh sumitraS ca maitrEyah Sunako balih
bako dAlbhyah sthUlaSirAh krishNadvaipAyanah Sukah-
sumantur jaiminih pailo vyAsaSishyAs tathA vayam
tittirir yAgnavalkyaS ca sasuto lomaharshaNah-
apsuhomyaS ca dhaumyaS ca ANImANDavyakauSikau
Sabha004 011 dAmoshNIshas traivaNiS ca parNAdo ghaTajAnukah-
maunjAyano vAyubhakshah pArASaryaS ca sArikau
balavAkah SinIvAkah sutyapAlah kritaSramah-
jAtUkarNah SikhAvAmS ca subalah pArijAtakah
parvataS ca mahAbhAgo mArkaNDEyas tathA munih-
pavitrapANih sAvarNir bhAlukir gAlavas tathA
janghAbandhuS ca raibhyaS ca kopavEgaSravA bhriguh-
haribabhruS ca kauNDinyo babhrumAlI sanAtanah
kakshIvAn auSijaS caiva nAcikEto atha gautamah-
paingo varAhah Sunakah SANDilyaS ca mahAtapAh
E karkaro vENujanghaS ca kalApah kaTha Eva ca
Sabha004 016 munayo dharmasahitA dhritAtmAno jitEndriyAh-
EtE cAnyE ca bahavo vEdavEdAngapAragAh
upAsatE mahAtmAnam sabhAyAm rishisattamAh-
kathayantah kathAh puNyA dharmagnAh Sucayo amalAh

English:

WERE ALL THESE GREAT SAGES FED WITH MEATS OF WILD BORES AND DEER, LIKE OUR MODERN VVIPs?

Yudhishthira was performing rAjasUya sacrifice.
list of sages sitting in maya assembly. Upon the seats in that palace sat, along with the Pandavas, Rishis and kings that came from various countries, viz., Asita and Devala, Satya, Sarpamali and Mahasira; Arvavasu, Sumitra, Maitreya, Sunaka and Vali; Vaka, Dalvya, Sthulasira, Krishna-Dwaipayana, and Suka Sumanta, Jaimini, Paila, and the disciples of Vyasa, viz., ourselves; Tittiri, Yajanavalkya, and Lomaharshana with his son; Apsuhomya, Dhaumya, Animandavya; and Kausika; Damoshnisha and Traivali, Parnada, and Varayanuka, Maunjayana, Vayubhaksha, Parasarya, and Sarika; Valivaka, Silivaka, Satyapala, and Krita-srama; Jatukarna, and Sikhavat. AlAmba and Parijataka; the exalted Parvata, and the great Muni Markandeya; Pavitrapani, Savarna, Bhaluki, and Galava. Janghabandhu, Raibhya, Kopavega, and Bhrig. Harivabhru, Kaundinya, Vabhrumali, and Sanatana, Kakshivat, and Ashija, Nachiketa, and Aushija, Nachiketa, and Gautama; Painga, Varaha, Sunaka, and Sandilya of great ascetic merit: Kukkura, Venujangha, Kalapa and Katha; these virtuous and learned Munis with senses and souls under complete control, and many others as numerous, all well-skilled in the Vedas and Vedangas and conversant with (rules of) morality and pure and spotless in behaviour, waited on the illustrious Yudhishthira, and gladdened him by their sacred discourses.

Click here to study Vyasa Mahabharata, Volume 2, Book of Rajasuya Sacrifice, http://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/mbhK/mahabharata-k-02-itx.html

Yudhishthira feeding Brahmins in Sabha Parva

vaishampAyana uvAcha. 2-4-6x

ityuktvA.a.ali~Ngya vIbhatsuM
visR^iShTaH prayayau mayaH'. 2-4-6 (11373)

tataH praveshanaM tasyAM chakre rAjA yudhiShThiraH.
ayutaM bhojayitvA tu brAhmaNAnAM narAdhipaH.. 2-4-7 (11374)

sAjyena pAyasenaiva madhunA mishritena cha.
bhakShyairmUlaiH phalaishchaiva mAMsair vArAha hAriNaiH.
kR^isareNAtha jIvantyA haviShyeNa cha sarvashaH.. 2-4-8 (11375)

mAMsaprakArairvividhaiH khAdyaishchApi tathA nR^ipa. choShyaishcha vividhai rAjanpeyaishcha bahuvistaraiH.. 2-4-9 (11376)

ahataishchaiva vAsobhirmAlyairuchchAvachairapi.
tarpayAmAsa viprendrA annAnAdigbhyaH samAgatAn.. 2-4-10 (11377)

Verse No. 2-4-8 second line marked in bold, clearly shows that Yudhishthira fed Brahmins and Kings (VIPs obviously) with puddings, roots, fruits, meats of pigs/bores/ham/bacon and deer. Note: This particular verse seems to be missing in Bhandarkar Version. May be, cleansed by the Sages who prepared Bhandarkar Version.

YUDHISHTHIRA'S CRAZE TO FEED AND MAINTAIN HUGE NUMBER OF BRAHMINS OF THOSE DAYS

Mahabharata's VirATa Parvam Volume 4 Book of Incognito Chapter 45 Verse 17.
Context: Draupadi was serving Virata's Queen SudheshNa. Draupadi was in the guise of Sairandhri. Virata's brother-in-law KIcaka was teasing her. Draupadi was lamenting.

This verse refers to the past glory of Yudhishthira who is now serving in the Court of Virata, as a dice thrower.

ashTASItisahasrANi snAtakA grihamedhinaH`
triMSaddAsIka ekaiko yAn bibharti yudhishThiraH.

daSAnyAni sahasrANi nityaM tatrAnnam uttamam`
bhuJjate rukmapAtrIbhir yudhishThiraniveSane

English Gist
YudhishThira used to have 88,000 graduate grihamedhis (persons interested in lust, passion and intercourse as per Suka Goswami. Grihamedhis are different from householders- called grihasthas.) with 30 maid-servants attached to each. He had another 10,000 priests who didn't accept gifts and who kept their sperm intact (without falling).

Ganguli's translation
that Yudhishthira who maintained eighty-eight thousands of
domestic Snatakas with thirty maid-servants assigned unto each, as also ten thousand yatis not accepting anything in gift and with vital seed drawn up,--alas, even that mighty king now liveth in such guise.

88,000 x 30 = 264,000 maid-servants. What these women were doing in the service of the snataka Brahmins? What would have been the expenditure for maintaining these 88,000 + 264,000 + 10,000 unproductive persons?

In spite of all the above, we can't call that there was Brahminic Culture during Mahabharata period. The above verses only prove that Brahmins of the Mahabharata period ate both the meats of wild bores (forest pigs), and deer. Subsequently, some of them in South India, might have shifted to Vegetarianism, but that vegetarianism was confined only to themselves, and others were free to eat whatever they wished.

EVEN BEFORE ARRIVAL OF ARYANS, ANCIENT INDIANS SEEMED TO BE VEGETARIANS

Ancient Indians having evolved from monkeys-apes as per the Dorwinian Theories (like other homosepient) might have started as Vegetarians eating fruits. Subsequently, some of them, to satisfy their tongues might have shifted to non-vegetarianism, and hunting.

Simply because Brahmins of Mahabharata days ate meats of wild bores and deer, the 21st Century Brahmins need not eat. By foregoing meats and fishes, people may not lose much. By vegetarianism, lot of BLOOD-SHED can be avoided. Vegetables will be Easy on stomachs. Cheaper to produce. Easier to cook. Persons may become weak not because they abstain from meats, but because they do not exercise regularly. The proteins in lentils (redgram, green gram, black gram dal etc.) are as qualitative as meats. No need to deplete forests, of wild pigs.

COLLECTOR SHRI MURALI, OF JAISHANKAR BHUPALAPALLI DISTRICT SEEMS TO BE EMULATING SWAMI VIVEKANANDA

Swami Vivekananda believed that Indians have become physically weak, as they were not eating meats of all types, which he ate quite voraciously. His advice to youth was 3 Bs: Biceps, Bhagavad gita, Beef.

When in United States, UK, and Europe, Swami Vivekananda was questioned by some of his Indian admirers about his eating everything, inclusive of meats. He treated them (his critics) as some flies or flees.
During the last two years of his 39 year life, Vivekananda seems to have been bogged down by DIABETES and many other eating-disorders/alcoholism related diseases, and he lamented for not being allowed to eat meat. Yet, he didn't stop eating meats.

Vivekananda's experience only proves that there is no link between Non-vegetarianism, beef eating, and physical stamina / strength, which is a function of numerous factors, among which meat eating may be one help-factor, but it is not the sole factor.

Hence, the IAS Officer-Collector Bhupalpalli ought not to have spoken disparagingly about 'abstaining from meat'.

To continue adding / deleting /modifying. और जोडने के लिये है. ఇంకా జోడించాల్సింది ఉంది.

717 Part 5 of Review of Leadership Speech of Shri V.V. Lakshmi Narayana with his special stress on Swami Vivekananda भाग ५ श्री लक्शमीनारायण जी के विवेकानंद भाषण के अध्ययन భాగం ౫, శ్రీ వీ.వీ. లక్ష్మీనారాయణ , A.D.G.P. Maharashtra గారి ప్రసంగం యొక్క అధ్యయనం

This is in continuation of our blog posts Click to go to 704 , Click to go to 706-- , Click to go to 707, (Click to go to 713) We have done four parts of a ten part series, of a review on the speech given by Shri V.V. Lakshmi Narayana, 2016 Addl. D.G.P., Maharashtra, and former Jt. Director, CBI, Hyderabad. For those who wish to download an mp3 file of more than one hour long speech here is a link: Click to go to Archive.org for downloading mp3 of speech of Shri Lakshmi Narayana. . A video is also available on the net. We shall now take up the fifth part.

Additional trigger for this blog post: An article by Shri Akar Patel in Deccan Chronicle.com, about the introduction of prohibition in Bihar by Mr. Nitish Kumar. Title of the article is: PROHIBITION IS A FAILED IDEA. For those who wish to read this article, here is the link: (Click to go to the article of Mr. Akar Patel in Deccan Chronicle.Com.)

Trigger 2: Speeches of Mr. Kanhaiya Kumar, JNU Student Leader, blaming "Brahminism" as the root cause for the sufferings of Dalits and Sudras in India, and his repeated claims that he does not want Brahminism.

ybrao-a-donkey's humble comments. वैबीराव एक गधे के विनम्र राय . వైబీరావ్ గాడిద వినమ్ర వాణి. You have every right to differ with me. I respect your right. आपको मेरे मत से भिन्न राय रखने के संपूर्ण हक है। मै उस अधिकार को परिपूर्ण रूप से गौरव देता हुँ. మీకు, మీ భిన్నమైన అభిప్రాయాన్ని కలిగిఉండే సంపూర్ణ హక్కు ఉంది. దానిని ఎంతో నేను గౌరవిస్తాను. However, pl. examine this donkey's views also. परन्तु एस गधे के दृष्टिकोण को भी अनुशीलन कीजिये. కానీ ఈ గాడిద దృష్టికోణాన్ని కూడ ఓర చూపుతో కంటజూడుమీ, క్రీగంట జూడమీ.

In any Capitalist Economy, Governance and Society, Prohibition is bound to fail. Mr. Akar Patel has presented several arguments to support the idea of failure of Prohibition in the World, in other States of India, and in Bihar. These things, I shall discuss elaborately and exhaustively in a separate blog post.

On the other hand in a truly COMPLETE SOCIALIST ECONOMY, GOVERNANCE, AND SOCIETY, there will be no need of prohibition.

It has become a fashion for numerous writers to blame Brahminism for the evils of Indian Society. Mr. Akar Patel's article too has a reference to Brahminism.

"...The famous sociologist M.N. Srinivas said prohibition of alcohol was actually a Sanskritic act, like cow slaughter. What he meant was that whatever justification was given, the Indian instinct to ban and prohibit came from a brahminical, upper-caste sensibility. It should therefore not surprise us that the makers of India’s Constitution debated these two issues — beef ban and alcohol prohibition — on the same day, November 24, 1948. I am writing this because another state in India, Bihar, has implemented a ban on all alcohol. Kerala is already going that route, joining Gujarat and a couple of states in the Northeast. ..."

An erroneous exaggerated impression has been created by several journalists, writers, politicians, bureaucrats, everybody, that Brahmins have ruled the roust in India.

Swami Vivekananda too seems to have had this impression. We shall take up his quote also simultaneously. Source for this quote: (Click if you wish to read more.)

"...One cannot but be amazed at the Swami's prophetic intuition as expressed through the following remarks made to Christine in 1896: 'The next upheaval will come from Russia or China. I cannot see clearly which, but it will be either the one or the other.' He further said: 'The world is in the third epoch, under the domination of the vaisya. The fourth epoch will be under that of the sudra.' ".

An explanation was provided as a footnote at the bottom of this quoted page:

Explanation: "...The vaisya, or the merchant, and the sudra, or the worker, represent the third and fourth castes in Hindu society. Swami Vivekananda said that the four castes, by turn, governed human society. The brahmin dominated the thought-current of the world during the glorious days of the ancient Hindu civilization. Then came the rule of the kshattriya, the military as manifested through the supremacy of Europe from the time of the Roman Empire to the middle of the seventeenth century. Next followed the rule of the vaisya, marked by the rise of America. The Swami prophesied the coming supremacy of the sudra class. After the completion of the cycle, he said, the spiritual culture would again assert itself and influence human civilization through the power of the brahmin. Swami Vivekananda often spoke of the future greatness of India as surpassing all her glories of the past. ..."

There is nothing really prophetic in what Swami Vivekananda said. He, in fact, failed to recognise that Upper Sudras have been ruling this country, at grass-root and middle levels, for the last 2000 years.

In the entire history of India, we find only two or three occasions where Brahmins have ruled kingdoms: 1. Brihad ratha, who defeated the last king of the Maurya dynasty. 2. Pishvas of Maharashtra in 17th Century.

Though Indian Epics Mahabharata, Ramayana, puranas (mythological narrations) such as Mahabhagavata, smritis like Manu Smriti contained numerous verses which indicated Brahmin domination, they were rarely implemented except during Mahabharata and Ramayana periods, if at all they contain any elements of valid history (So far no proof of Ramayana and Mahabharata being histories). While Brahmins succeeded in inserting numerous verses which preached favourable treatment and gifts to Brahmins, they were only receiving their livelihood for services such as funerals, weddings, naming ceremonies, housewarming ceremonies, etc. performed by them. This type of services were rendered by Pastors, Bishops, Mullahs, Clerics, in alien religions also.

If we can visualise a society which can dispense with the services of priests / pastors/ mullahs etc., it should all the more be welcome. But that is possible only in a Truly Socialist Society, where 1) the institutions religious priest-pastor-mulah-hood , and their associate ceremonies such as weddings, funeral prayers etc. can be totally abolished. 2) OR, Secular Govt. Officials will perform those functions without introducing the elements of Gods and Prayers.

Vivekananda was under an erroneous impression that Sudras were not ruling the country till now. Ever since the Aryan Kshatriyas died in numerous battles and wars, caused by internecine animosities, invasions by Greeks, Kushanus, Sakas, Huns etc., most of the Kingdoms in India were ruled by Sudras. Maurya dynasty itself was a Sudra dynasty. When Sudras became kings of hundreds of kingdoms of India from Kashmir to Kanyakumari, Afghanistan to Burma, some of them declared themselves to be Kshatriyas (warrior caste). They took help of Brahmins for the purpose. Example: Declaration of Sudra Kings as Agni Kula Kshatriyas, by performance of sacrifices (yagnas) on Aravali Hills of Ajmer.

Brahmins had no alternative left, except to implement the dictates of the New Kings. Brahmins were just servants of the New Sudra Kings. Whatever oppression of the further lower Sudras, and dalits had taken in Indian History, they were at the command of the Sudra Rulers whom we can call "Upper Sudras", while the washermen, barbers, potters, etc. were condemned to be "Lower Sudras". Of course, we can blame the Brahmins for surrendering to the dictates of Sudra Rulers. Then that was a survival need. For that matter, the Army Chieftains and the soldiers of the Sudra Rulers were also Sudras. Under orders of the Upper Sudra Rulers, didn't the Sudra Army Chieftains, Lower Sudra soldiers, exploit and oppress the ruled "Lower Sudras" and Dalits? In other words, whether Sudra or Brahmin or Vysya in the court of the Sudra Kings had their shares of the spoils, from the exploitation of the village Sudras and the exterminated Dalits.

The same structure and system continued in the 20th C. India, and is continuing even in the 21st Century India, in almost all the States.

21st Century Proof. Example from Andhra Pradesh. Without any malice to Upper Sudras, or Lower Sudras of Andhra Pradesh

Without malice to Mr. Chandra Babu Naidu, and his Cabinet Members we shall see the 2016 position: At least 80% of his Cabinet are Sudras. (Notes: Kammas, Reddys, and Kapus are also Sudras. The Chief Minister and the Sudra Ministers will get some ideas in their minds. They call the astrologers and pandits, most of whom are Brahmins. Brahmins are not ministers in the Cabinet. They are not rulers. They know pretty well that unless they become "HMV" (His Master's Voice), they will not get a second call to the Chandra Babu's Court. Recently, one Pravachana Chakravarti (Title: Emperor of Discourses), Upanyasa Chakravarti (Emperor of Discourses), Sarada Gnana Putra (Son of Knowledge of the Goddess of Learning), has been appointed as Adviser to the A.P. Government. This does not mean that the Adviser-Consultant will play a key role in the governance of the State.

The same is the case in Telangana State. Without any malice to the Upper Sudras and Lower Sudras of Telangana:

Mr. K. Chandra Sekhara Rao & his family are Velamas. In Telangana, both the dominant landed castes i.e. Velamas and Sudras are Sudras. Most of his Ministers are Sudras. Mr. KCR also consults Brahmin Gurus and astrologers. But the Brahmin Gurus and the astrologers do not govern Telangana. Their role is just "HMV" and to collect some rewards for becoming "yes-men".

Uttar Pradesh and Bihar are ruled by Sudras, mainly Yadavs who may be classified as Upper Sudras. Most of the UP and Bihar Cabinet Members are Sudras.

At All India level also, similar position exists in Union Cabinet.

About Vivekananda's conception of Vysya (Trader, Business Person caste) Epoch. As per the explanation given in the above website, U.S.A. is taken was a representative of Vysya (Trading Community), by Swami Vivekananda. Swami Vivekananda seems to have forgotten the basic fact that though in Europe, and United States, though Nobility of Birth was partly important, Caste was not important. For example, Queen Elizabeth I of Great Britain depended for her Treasures on colonial slave traders, pirates, for her income.

As a self-declared Advaita Vedanta monk, Swami Vivekananda ought to have stopped thinking on caste lines. When Adi Shankara was going to bathe in Ganga River, one cobbler encountered him. Adi Shankara asked him to give way, by moving aside. The cobbler asked him "Should the body move aside, or the Soul move aside?". Thus Vedantic monks are not expected to think on caste lines, just as Communists-Marxists-True Socialists-atheists are not expected to think on caste lines.

Seeking introduction of prohibition cannot be taken as a Brahminic idea, though in some Regions of India, Brahmins do not consume alcohol and meat. Anyway, when Sudras are ruling India and its 29 States, how can Brahmins dictate terms?

If Mr. Akar Patel really wants to know the exact place where the demand for PROHIBITION is coming, he should do some "para griha pravEsh" (Enter homes of others. This word has been coined by ybrao-a-donkey, on lines similar to "para kAya pravEsh (entering into another's body)".). Every alternate Home in India he can visit, to find out how mothers are harassed by sons demanding money to buy liquor, and to look at housewives and children being beaten by alcoholic husbands, demanding money for liquor. It is the women at home, who are the worst sufferers at the hands of the Liquor Trading Governments and Contractors.

Back to Vivekananda: Though "Financial Invasions" by "Financial Powers" have partly replaced the "Military Invasions" by "Military Powers", there is a synergic mutual interdependence between them. Thus, to use Vivekananda's language, though "Sudras" have become rulers, they depend for their survival on "Vysyas (Meaning:Corporates)" for election funds. The Sudra rulers after getting elected as Presidents and Prime Ministers with "Vysya support" , when they visit abroad, the Sudra Rulers take large representation Groups of "Vysyas" for Business Promotion i.e. to sell aircraft, guns, radars, drones, what not! This is what is called "Crony Capitalism". The "third epoch" has not ended. The third and fourth epoch-es are jointly ruling the World.

To continue. सशेष. ఇంకా ఉంది.