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Thursday, March 23, 2017

931 (Part 1/3 series ) Third Ayodhya too will have to be taken into reckoning


Triggers for this particular blogpost: 1. Advice of Supreme Court of India, to the litigants of Ayodhya, about the Babri Masjid and Rama Janma Bhumi land, to opt for mediation and consultation based settlement. Supreme Court's offer to help in Intermediation. 2. Observations of Shri Garikapati Narasimha Rao, Telugu discourser, on Telugu TV Channel, titled 'Raghuvamsam', about Sita performing obsequies/oblations (pinda pradanam) to her father-in-law Dasaratha, on the banks of River Phalguni, at Gaya Vishnu pada tIrtham. This in continuation of my 194 posts made by me at my blog Click to go to my blog Ramayanayb.blogspot.com.

Pl. see the following study material:
Click here to go to https://www.jatland.com/home/The_Jats:Their_Origin,_Antiquity_and_Migrations/The_Scythic_origin_of_the_Jats#Where_was_Ayodhya_.3F

Where was Ayodhya ?

Without piling up anymore glaring discrepancies, we now address ourselves to the crucial problem i.e. where could that Ayodhya be where the Sakas, the alleged progenitors of Jats, had a dig in against king Sagar and consequently met their Waterloo?

The Jats:Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations: End of p.191

In fact, there was an ancient city named Ayodhya or Ayodhin Ajudhan in the Sapta Saindhava country, the original home of the Jats or that of the Rigvedic Aryans, but unluckily it was not given the attention by historians it eminently deserved. It was first of all brought to light by Nearchus111, one of the generals of Alexandar, when he undertook the return journey to Greece along the Satluj river. The name is mentioned next by Waddell112, but neither Nearchus nor Waddell gives any information about the founders of the city. Bhargaval13 merely shows this city on the map in his famous book 'Geography of the Rigvedic India'. It is, as far as we know, the Imperial Gazetteer of India 114 and also Khalid Ahmad Nizami115, the biographer of Sheikh Farid-ud-din, that inform us that the Yaudheyas (Johiyas) were,the probable builders of the city. Precisely speaking modern Pakpattan in Pakistan is Ayodhin on river Sutlej, not far from Kasur, below Ferozepur; more or less opposite Harappa116. The foundations of Lahor and Kasur are traditionally attributed respectively to Lava and Kush sons of Rama Dasharathi.These cities still exist in the neighborhood Ayodhin. Kekayi's ancestors, the Kaikayas, who derived their name from their eponymous ancestor Kaikeya, son of Sivi-Ausinar, had their capital at Girivraj,identified by Cunningham with Virjak or Jalalpur on the river Jhelum (Pakistan)116a. As is well-known Kaithal near Kurukshetra was Kapisthala, the birth-place of Hanuman, the monkey god. All this geographical evidence goes to prove conclusively that Ayodhin was the original Ayodhya.

However, diving deeper into the ocean of history we are rewarded with invaluable light, the effulgence of which dispels the fog shrouding the mystery of Ayodhya or Ayodhin just as the rising sun makes the darkness of night disappear "with its heels on its head". As the name suggests, Ayodhin must be original Ayodhya, "the invincible city", founded by the invincible Yaudheyas of yore, who remained a paramount power in (hat region for a very long time in the past before their migration to the eastern parts of the Sapta Sindhu. Alexander the Great, who stormed the Panjab like a whirlwind, is said to have meekly retraced his steps back to Greece and Mahmud Gazanavi had to flee the field of Multan incognito and returned empty-handed to his country for fear of those warriors. Just as the Sakas, so are the Yaudheyas identified with the Jats. Anyway, the pertinent question we are now confronted with is, who were the Yaudheyas?





yb-donkey's views, not intended to be imposed on others



Right now I am not able to take Lahore-pakpaTTan as 3rd Ayodhya, although possibilities cannot be ruled out. More investigations may be needed.

For the information of my Readers:
Ayodhya-1 : Phaizabad Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh, which contains the disputed Babri Masjid site. This is accepted by Tourist circuits as the original Ayodhya ruled by King Dasaratha.

Ayodhya-2: In my personal view this is in Bihar State, Kursela Town, at the confluence of the Kosi and Ganga Rivers. In Kursela, we have a place, which is popularly known as 'Ayodhya Ganj', because of its popularity as Mandi Centre between Delhi and Kolkata. About this place, I have already covered partly at my blog ramayanayb.blogspot.com. In my personal humble view, the Lichchavi Ikshvakus who ruled Vaishali in Bihar are apparently the Ikshvakus of Valmiki Ramayana Fame.

INVASION OF AFGHANISTHAN (KANDAHAR) BY BHARATA (3RD IN THE FOUR BROTHERS) WITH HELP FROM SHRI RAMA & Yudhajit (maternal uncle of Bharata)


Last volume of Valmiki Ramayana, called 'Uttara KAnDa' (=English: uttara=post, after. Post-coronation of Shri Rama on the throne of Ayodhya. kAnDa=Episode, story. Segment, Stem of a long narration). In Sarga 100 (Chapter 100), the verses which describe Bharata's invasion, can be seen, and studied. There was some bloodshed on a River in Kandahar. The object of invasion was, to add sufficient land to Rama's Empire, so that he could allocate some kingdom's to Bharata's two sons.

Lakshmana's two sons, and Satrughna's two sons were accommodated by gifting kingdoms in Central India.

By doing these distributions, Shri Rama ensured that the anointment of his own sons Kusa and Lova will not be disturbed by their cousins.

Some places bearing names of Lakshmana, Satrughna, Bharata, and their sons may be found near Lahore, or in Kandahar. That alone will not be sufficient to say that pakpaTTan was ancient Ayodhya, because when new places are colonised, the colonists have a tendency to name places at the new colony, by the places of their native locations. For example, European Settlers in United States 1600, named many places in USA, by the names of European Cities like London.

Another possibility


We may find a Rajiv Gandhi Airport in Hyderabad. That does not mean Rajiv Gandhi lived in Hyderabad. Before accepting that possibility, we may have to search for additional corroborative evidence.

I shall add some more material here shortly.

To continue adding / deleting / modifying. सशेष. ఇంకా ఉంది.

Tuesday, March 7, 2017

920 Better late than never, if Supreme Court re-opens the conspiracy part of the Babri Masjid Demolition Case against Mr. L.K. Advani.


According to news reports, Supreme Court is likely to revive the 'Conspiracy' part of the Babri Masjid Demolition case against Mr. L.K. Advani, the now-neglected BJP Bhishmacharya, on the basis that 'discharge of Mr. Advani, on technical grounds cannot be accepted'. It is already too late. Some of the witnesses might have passed away. Now, the BJP Government is ruling the country. Media may not have the courage to give adequate coverage to the case. If the conspiracy part of the case against Mr. L.K. Advani is revived by Supreme Court, the pending case may work as a 'negative' block against the candidature of Mr. Advani, for the Presidency of India, the elections for which are going to be held next July 2017. Right now, even after being sidelined by Mr. Narendra Modi and Mr. Ameet Shah, Shri Advani may be hoping to be made President of India. BJP Central Committee may also likely to use the pending case as a convenient pretext, to deny Presidential candidature of Mr. Advani, apart from the well-used excuse of his crossing 75 years of age.

We, Indians, can have a consolation of 'better late than never'. Apart from Mr. Narendra Modi, Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee, and Shri Lal Krishna Advani, the stalvarts of BJP have had great oratorial powers and the speeches of the duo influenced the kar sevaks (volunteers who / in whose presence, the Babri Masjid was demolished. Here are links to videos of the speeches of Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee, and Shri L.K. Advani, of 1992, just prior to the destruction of the Babri Masjid:

Click here to go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EhMmJEwbTg, and view the video containing the speech of Shri A.B. Vajpayee.

Click here to go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Dr9s0mO4k and view the video containing the speech of Shri L.K> Advani.

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE


The above youtube link clearly demonstates the inciting speech given by Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee. But, as he is bed-ridden, it will be difficult to make him accused in any incitement case, because he will not be able to explain his side of things in his defence. Though the Mr. Vajpayee may not/cannot be made accused in the case, it seems appropriate if Supreme Court examines his incitement role also in the Babri Masjid Demolition.

While awarding the country's highest award 'Bharat Ratna' to Shri Vajpayee, and 'Padma Vibhushan' to Shri L.K. Advani, the Government ought to have examined the inflammatory speeches made by Shri Advani, and Shri Vajpayee, as they seem to have activated and motivated the crowd behavior.

NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CONVICTION AND INCARCERATION


Even if the 'conspiracy case' proceeds normally, if Supreme Court gives a green signal, the trial may take some years. Then, even after conviction / acquittal, there will be appeals / revision petitions / SLPs / curatory petitions. Hence, there will be no need for Shri Advaniji to worry about conviction / incarceration. But, the case will open new avenues, in the annals of adjudication of inflammatory speeches, against other leaders such as Mr. Akbaruddin Owaisi, Mr. Vinay Katiar, Shri Y.S. Jaganmohan Reddy, Shri Nara Chandra Babu Naidu and numerous other political leaders, who make inciting and inflammatory speeches.

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Remaining 500 posts are at the bottom. మిగిలిన 500 పోస్టులు (501 to 1000) క్రింది భాగంలో ఉన్నాయి. बाकी ५०० पोस्ट् निम्न भाग में है।


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681      |      682      |      683      |      684      |      685      |      686      |      687      |      688      |      689      |      690      |      691      |      692      |      693      |      694      |      695      |      696      |      697      |      698      |      699      |      700      |     


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721      |      722      |      723      |      724      |      725      |      726      |      727      |      728      |      729      |      730      |      731      |      732      |      733      |      734      |      735      |      736      |      737      |      738      |      739      |      740      |     
741      |      742      |      743      |      744      |      745      |      746      |      747      |      748      |      749      |      750      |      751      |      752      |      753      |      754      |      755      |      756      |      757      |      758      |      759      |      760      |     
761      |      762      |      763      |      764      |      765      |      766      |      767      |      768      |      769      |      770      |      771      |      772      |      773      |      774      |      775      |      776      |      777      |      778      |      779      |      780      |     
781      |      782      |      783      |      784      |      785      |      786      |      787      |      788      |      789      |      790      |      791      |      792      |      793      |      794      |      795      |      796      |      797      |      798      |      799      |      800      |     

801      |      802      |      803      |      804      |      805      |      806      |      807      |      808      |      809      |      810      |      811      |      812      |      813      |      814      |      815      |      816      |      817      |      818      |      819      |      820      |     
821      |      822      |      823      |      824      |      825      |      826      |      827      |      828      |      829      |      830      |      831      |      832      |      833      |      834      |      835      |      836      |      837      |      838      |      839      |      840      |     
841      |      842      |      843      |      844      |      845      |      846      |      847      |      848      |      849      |      850      |      851      |      852      |      853      |      854      |      855      |      856      |      857      |      858      |      859      |      860      |     
861      |      862      |      863      |      864      |      865      |      866      |      867      |      868      |      869      |      870      |      871      |      872      |      873      |      874      |      875      |      876      |      877      |      878      |      879      |      880      |     
881      |      882      |      883      |      884      |      885      |      886      |      887      |      888      |      889      |      890      |      891      |      892      |      893      |      894      |      895      |      896      |      897      |      898      |      899      |      900      |     


901      |      902      |      903      |      904      |      905      |      906      |      907      |      908      |      909      |      910      |      911      |      912      |      913      |      914      |      915      |      916      |      917      |      918      |      919      |      920      |     
921      |      922      |      923      |      924      |      925      |      926      |      927      |      928      |      929      |      930      |      931      |      932      |      933      |      934      |      935      |      936      |      937      |      938      |      939      |      940      |     
941      |      942      |      943      |      944      |      945      |      946      |      947      |      948      |      949      |      950      |      951      |      952      |      953      |      954      |      955      |      956      |      957      |      958      |      959      |      960      |     
961      |      962      |      963      |      964      |      965      |      966      |      967      |      968      |      969      |      970      |      971      |      972      |      973      |      974      |      975      |      976      |      977      |      978      |      979      |      980      |     
981      |      982      |      983      |      984      |      985      |      986      |      987      |      988      |      989      |      990      |      991      |      992      |      993      |      994      |      995      |      996      |      997      |      998      |      999      |      1000      |     

From 1001 (In gradual progress)

1001      |      1002      |      1003      |      1004      |      1005      |      1006      |      1007      |      1008      |      1009      |     
1010      |           |     
1011      |      1012      |      1013      |      1014      |      1015      |     
1016      |      1017      |      1018      |      1019      |      1020      |     


1021      |      1022      |      1023      |      1024      |      1025      |     
1026      |      1027      |      1028      |      1029      |      1030      |     


     |      1031      |           |      1032      |           |      1033      |           |      1034      |           |      1035      |           |      1036      |      1037      |      1038      |      1039      |      1040      |     


     |      1041      |      1042      |      1043      |           |      1044      |           |      1045      |     


     |      1046      |      1047      |      1048      |           |      1049      |           |      1050      |     

     |      1051      |      1052      |      1053      |           |      1054      |           |      1055      |     
     |      1056      |      1057      |      1058      |           |      1059      |           |      1060      |     
     |      1061      |      1062      |      1063      |           |      1064      |           |      1065      |     
     |      1066      |      1067      |      1067      |      1068      |      1069      |      1069      |      1070      |     
     |      1071      |      1072      |      1073      |      1074      |      1075      |      1076      |     
1077      |      1078      |      1079      |      1080      |     
     |      1081      |      1082      |      1083      |      1084      |      1085      |      1086      |     
1087      |      1088      |      1089      |      1090      |     
     |      1091      |      1092      |      1093      |      1094      |      1095      |      1096      |     
1097      |      1098      |      1099      |      1100      |     
     |      1101      |      1102      |      1103      |      1104      |      1105      |      1106      |     
1107      |      1108      |      1109      |      1110      |