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Friday, March 25, 2016

706 Part 2/10 Nationalism and Patriotism of Swami Vivekananda - A discussion on a speech of Shri V.V. Lakshmi Narayana, JD, CBI


Recapitulation: This is in continuation of our blog-post No. Link: 704 , wherein we have started discussing about a talk given by Shri V.V. Lakshmi Narayana, Former Joint Director, CBI, For Joint Commissioner, Thane, and 2016 Additional D.G.P., Maharashtra, to Indian Youth. Unfortunately, in 704 we had to dedicate entire space to explain the triggers which have led to this ten post series. In that particular post, I expressed an anxiety (a personal opinion, not intended to be a comment on Indian Judicial System), that the disproportionate assets case of Shri Chandra Babu Naidu, 9 + 2+ years Chief Ministers of Andhra Pradesh, was not given adequate investigation by the Joint Director, CBI, Hyderabad, as A.P. High Court was under pressure to dispose off a Writ filed by Shri Naidu and 11 others, including Reliance, in Supreme Court. About the 'more than hour-long' speech delivered by our JD,CBI at Shri Ramakrishna Math, Hyderabad, for a Vibrant India, we could not discuss. Though we need a thousand pages to write about the issues which have come up in the speech, we planned to take up some of them for discussion, without any malice towards anybody. Our beloved Lakshmi Narayana gAru wants every house in India to produce Vivekanandas.

ybrao-a-donkey's humble comments. वैबीराव एक गधे के विनम्र राय . వైబీరావ్ గాడిద వినమ్ర వాణి. You have every right to differ with me. I respect your right. आपको मेरे मत से भिन्न राय रखने के संपूर्ण हक है। मै उस अधिकार को परिपूर्ण रूप से गौरव देता हुँ. మీకు, మీ భిన్నమైన అభిప్రాయాన్ని కలిగిఉండే సంపూర్ణ హక్కు ఉంది. దానిని ఎంతో నేను గౌరవిస్తాను. However, pl. examine this donkey's views also. परन्तु एस गधे के दृष्टिकोण को भी अनुशीलन कीजिये. కానీ ఈ గాడిద దృష్టికోణాన్ని కూడ ఓర చూపుతో కంటజూడుమీ, క్రీగంట జూడమీ.



I personally view that, instead of having role models for emulations, it will be better if child Indians are allowed to grow up in a neutral (neither too "ethical" nor too "unethical") environment. Blind emulation of somebody who has been glorified by others, without knowing into facts and truths, may lead to skewnesses in growth patterns of children. For example, there are at least 100 unknown near-facts about Swami Vivekananda, which needed deeper investigation. Not that everything about Swami Vivekananda is shady or shaky. He had his own great moments of glory inasmuch as gray areas of groping in ignorance and superstition. In my previous blog posts, I have expressed an anxiety that our Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi, and our Urban Development Minister Shri Venkaiah Naidu have not APPARENTLY DEEPLY studied the Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda. But, then, they are just ordinary politicians. In this country, we do not expect much from politicians.

Our learned Shri V.V. Lakshmi Narayana garu is an I.A.S. topper. What wondered me very much when I was viewing the re-telecast of his speech, on Siti News Channel (For those who wish to download its mp3 file I repeat the link here again: Click), is as a learned I.A.S. Topper, how he could not have thought of going deeply into the HAGIOGRAPHIC NATURE of the preachings, quotes, reminiscences, stories, things, utopias etc. woven around Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, and Swami Vivekananda, before making up his mind, to produce Vivekanandas on a large scale. I hope at least, he will do it now, as unduly glorifying people can be as unfruitful as maligning people.

What we shall try to take up now, for the benefit of those who do not know about the HAGIOGRAPHIC NATURE of the writings about Swami Vivekananda, together with proof, from his Complete Works.

GRAY AREA NO. 1: Was Swami Vivekananda a great Nationalist and Patriot?

All of us are aware that, today, Nationalism and Patriotism are burning topics today. What constitutes Nationalism, and Patriotism, there are no definitions. It may be sufficient for us to say "Bharat mAtA ki jai" to circulate ourselves as great Nationalists and Patriots.

Common belief among Indians is Swami Vivekananda was a great Nationalist and Patriot. Whether this is a right conception or a misconception, I am neither qualified nor do I have an intention to pass value judgements. Readers can decide for themselves. As a sample workout for minds, I furnish below a quote from Swami Vivekananda (Our beloved Lakshmi Narayana garu has asked us in his speech, to open our days, remembering quotes of Swami Vivekananda).

In 1897, Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee was held in London. Raja of Khetri wanted Swami Vivekananda to accompany him to London, for the Golden Jubilee. Swamiji was also eager to go to London and attend the Golden Jubilee, but his Doctors did not allow him, because he was suffering from diabetes.

PROOF

Swami Vivekananda, wrote from Almora, to Ms. Joe Joe (Josephine Macleod) on July 10, 1897:
"... I have taken to the Himalayas, tired of lecturing and orating. I am so sorry the doctors would not allow my going over with the Raja of Khetri to England, and that has made Sturdy mad. ..."


PROOF 2

Swami Vivekananda wrote to Ramakrishnanda from Kashmir, on Sept. 30, 1897. By this time, Raja of Khetri went to London, attended Victoria's Golden Jubilee, and was returning back to India, at Gateway of India, Bombay. Vivekananda wanted the Chennai Math in-charge, and his Brother disciple Swami Ramakrishnanda to go to Mumbai and receive the Raja.

" ... PS. The Maharaja of Khetri is reaching Bombay on the 10th October. Don't forget to present him an address of welcome. ..."


ybrao-a-donkey's humble comments. वैबीराव एक गधे के विनम्र राय . వైబీరావ్ గాడిద వినమ్ర వాణి. You have every right to differ with me. I respect your right. आपको मेरे मत से भिन्न राय रखने के संपूर्ण हक है। मै उस अधिकार को परिपूर्ण रूप से गौरव देता हुँ. మీకు, మీ భిన్నమైన అభిప్రాయాన్ని కలిగిఉండే సంపూర్ణ హక్కు ఉంది. దానిని ఎంతో నేను గౌరవిస్తాను. However, pl. examine this donkey's views also. परन्तु एस गधे के दृष्टिकोण को भी अनुशीलन कीजिये. కానీ ఈ గాడిద దృష్టికోణాన్ని కూడ ఓర చూపుతో కంటజూడుమీ, క్రీగంట జూడమీ.



During the period in question, there was plague all over India. Sitting in Himalayas (Almora a cool centre), Swamiji was directing plague relief work. But Swamiji's mind was in London, about the Golden Jubilee of Queen Victoria, to which he could not accompany Khetri and attend. In this eagerness for Queen Victoria, where is the place for Nationalism, Patriotism, and Longing for Freedom for the country?

The ruler of Khetri was returning from London after attending the Golden Jubilee celebrations of Queen Victoria after paying tributes to the British Royalty.

Why should Ramakrishnananda go from Madras to Mumbai for welcoming Khetri?

Was it a monk's job?

Who would pay Ramakrishnanda's travelling expenses from Madras to Bombay?

Swami Vivekananda was not willing to help the Madras Math, by sparing surplus from his Reception lecture funds.

Should Vivekananda's loyalty and subservience to the Khetri (Khetri was paying a monthly allowance of Rs. 100/- to Swami Vivekananda), extend to Ramakrishnananda also?


In the next blog post, we shall take up "Indians are Lazy Rogues" opinion of Swamiji.

Subject to substantial Revision, additions and deletions. To continue and revise this, with more proof.. सशेष. సశేషం.

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681      |      682      |      683      |      684      |      685      |      686      |      687      |      688      |      689      |      690      |      691      |      692      |      693      |      694      |      695      |      696      |      697      |      698      |      699      |      700      |     


701      |      702      |      703      |      704      |      705      |      706      |      707      |      708      |      709      |      710      |      711      |      712      |      713      |      714      |      715      |      716      |      717      |      718      |      719      |      720      |     
721      |      722      |      723      |      724      |      725      |      726      |      727      |      728      |      729      |      730      |      731      |      732      |      733      |      734      |      735      |      736      |      737      |      738      |      739      |      740      |     
741      |      742      |      743      |      744      |      745      |      746      |      747      |      748      |      749      |      750      |      751      |      752      |      753      |      754      |      755      |      756      |      757      |      758      |      759      |      760      |     
761      |      762      |      763      |      764      |      765      |      766      |      767      |      768      |      769      |      770      |      771      |      772      |      773      |      774      |      775      |      776      |      777      |      778      |      779      |      780      |     
781      |      782      |      783      |      784      |      785      |      786      |      787      |      788      |      789      |      790      |      791      |      792      |      793      |      794      |      795      |      796      |      797      |      798      |      799      |      800      |     

801      |      802      |      803      |      804      |      805      |      806      |      807      |      808      |      809      |      810      |      811      |      812      |      813      |      814      |      815      |      816      |      817      |      818      |      819      |      820      |     
821      |      822      |      823      |      824      |      825      |      826      |      827      |      828      |      829      |      830      |      831      |      832      |      833      |      834      |      835      |      836      |      837      |      838      |      839      |      840      |     
841      |      842      |      843      |      844      |      845      |      846      |      847      |      848      |      849      |      850      |      851      |      852      |      853      |      854      |      855      |      856      |      857      |      858      |      859      |      860      |     
861      |      862      |      863      |      864      |      865      |      866      |      867      |      868      |      869      |      870      |      871      |      872      |      873      |      874      |      875      |      876      |      877      |      878      |      879      |      880      |     
881      |      882      |      883      |      884      |      885      |      886      |      887      |      888      |      889      |      890      |      891      |      892      |      893      |      894      |      895      |      896      |      897      |      898      |      899      |      900      |     


901      |      902      |      903      |      904      |      905      |      906      |      907      |      908      |      909      |      910      |      911      |      912      |      913      |      914      |      915      |      916      |      917      |      918      |      919      |      920      |     
921      |      922      |      923      |      924      |      925      |      926      |      927      |      928      |      929      |      930      |      931      |      932      |      933      |      934      |      935      |      936      |      937      |      938      |      939      |      940      |     
941      |      942      |      943      |      944      |      945      |      946      |      947      |      948      |      949      |      950      |      951      |      952      |      953      |      954      |      955      |      956      |      957      |      958      |      959      |      960      |     
961      |      962      |      963      |      964      |      965      |      966      |      967      |      968      |      969      |      970      |      971      |      972      |      973      |      974      |      975      |      976      |      977      |      978      |      979      |      980      |     
981      |      982      |      983      |      984      |      985      |      986      |      987      |      988      |      989      |      990      |      991      |      992      |      993      |      994      |      995      |      996      |      997      |      998      |      999      |      1000      |     

From 1001 (In gradual progress)

1001      |      1002      |      1003      |      1004      |      1005      |      1006      |      1007      |      1008      |      1009      |     
1010      |           |     
1011      |      1012      |      1013      |      1014      |      1015      |     
1016      |      1017      |      1018      |      1019      |      1020      |     


1021      |      1022      |      1023      |      1024      |      1025      |     
1026      |      1027      |      1028      |      1029      |      1030      |     


     |      1031      |           |      1032      |           |      1033      |           |      1034      |           |      1035      |           |      1036      |      1037      |      1038      |      1039      |      1040      |     


     |      1041      |      1042      |      1043      |           |      1044      |           |      1045      |     


     |      1046      |      1047      |      1048      |           |      1049      |           |      1050      |     

     |      1051      |      1052      |      1053      |           |      1054      |           |      1055      |     
     |      1056      |      1057      |      1058      |           |      1059      |           |      1060      |     
     |      1061      |      1062      |      1063      |           |      1064      |           |      1065      |     
     |      1066      |      1067      |      1067      |      1068      |      1069      |      1069      |      1070      |     
     |      1071      |      1072      |      1073      |      1074      |      1075      |      1076      |     
1077      |      1078      |      1079      |      1080      |     
     |      1081      |      1082      |      1083      |      1084      |      1085      |      1086      |     
1087      |      1088      |      1089      |      1090      |     
     |      1091      |      1092      |      1093      |      1094      |      1095      |      1096      |     
1097      |      1098      |      1099      |      1100      |     
     |      1101      |      1102      |      1103      |      1104      |      1105      |      1106      |     
1107      |      1108      |      1109      |      1110      |