Saturday, April 30, 2016

741 Part (10/10) of a discussion on origins of Lord Venkateswara, Lord VishNu, Goddess Lakshmi et al.

This is Part 10 of the series of our explorative studies on various probabilities of history and origin of the Lord Venkateswara's (Balaji) shrine at Tirumala-Tirupati. This is in continuation of our blog posts 508, 511, 512, 513, 584, 597, 631, 739, 740. For those who wish to study them (studying them will broaden our frame of thinking-i.e. perspective.), here are the links: To go to 508- Part1/10. To go to 511- Part2/10. To go to 512- Part3/10. To go to 513- Part4/10. To go to 584- Part5/10. To go to 597- Part6/10. To go to 631- Part7/10. . To go to 739- Part8/10. . To go to 740- Part9 /10. . One important conundrum which remains nearly unexplorable, in the absence of adequate clues and evidence, is the role of 'mahAdEv or paramEswara'. 'mahA' and 'paramA' are attributive prefixes (adjectives) to describe 'dieve' or 'deive'.

In the above photo, it can be seen that Sun God has four horses instead of Indian norm of seven horses (view of other three might have been obfuscated), whereas Latvian Sun Goddess Saule and Charioteer Usins drive two horses only instead of seven.

In Latvian, Lithuanian folklore, dieve, deive are Superior, even to 'perkons or perknoos' in Latvian folklore (parjanya or God of Thunders i.e. Indra, the Chief of Demy Gods and Lord of Svarga in Indian pantheon). We have also seen that though Usins is masculine, he is regarded only as a charioteer for the Sun Goddess Saule (in Latvian folklore Saule or Surya is feminine). note: Ausera, a Lithuanian Goddess we need not confuse ourselves with Usins. Ausera also meant dawn or 'Ushas'. This only shows that Usins may be VishNu. In the previous post, I have already expressed my feeling that Usins and Saule have been integrated and brought into Indian pantheon as only one i.e. "sUrya-Aditya-vishNu" (integrated name "sUrya nArayana"). Perkons (Parjanya-Indra) was gradually subdued to him. (Example: Lifting of Govardhana Hill by Lord Krishna against the will of Indra who rained thunders to frighten Yadavas).

According to the, dievs =
"Dievs : A Lettish sky god and fertility god. Consort of Saule. Sometimes referred to as Dievs, Latvian Debestevs, Latvian Debestevs, Dievas, Lithuanian Dievas, Lithuanian Dievas or Debestevs. ".
ybrao-a-donkey: This may be possible because, in Latvian, Lithuanian folklore, Saule is feminine, and dieve could her husband. But, there is also another variation: Moon is husband of Saule.

POSSIBILITIES, PROBABILITIES. साध्यासाध्य, अवकाश సాధ్యాసాధ్యాలు, అవకాశాలు

About "dieve" (in Lithuanian) or "deive" (in Latvian) who is regarded as superior even to Usins, Perkons and Laime, we can make following observations. First, Readers may please see the picture of dieve.

Mahabharata, the Epic by Sage Vyasa, though is a VaishNava scripture like Mahabhagavata, Mahabharata's DrONa parva gives great importance to Lord mahA dEva, who we in India commonly refer as Shiva or Shankar (Shankar MahadEv , Shiv mahadEv in North India). In the above photo, 'dieve' is spelt as 'xieve' (a variation of triangular letter delta for 'd'). As the God is moving on horse, we may have to regard him as Usins or Vishnu, since Laima (Lakshmi) and Mara are accompanying him. Besides, Maha dieve Shiva's vehicle is an ox.

Mara, some critics and analysers thought that, she represented 'Mary' of Christianity. It may not be correct. In Indian pantheon, 'Mara' represents the God Cupid, also called Manmatha, angaja. He is son of Lord Vishnu (Lord Krishna). He was slain by Shankar Mahadev when he penance was disrupted by Mara. Mara's wife was Rati. At her prayer, her husband Mara was again brought back to life, but without a body. Alternatively, 'mara' can be a variation for 'marut', a member of Lord MahA dieve's followers called 'rudra gaNas'. According to Indian pantheon, mahA dieve is also one of the EkAdaSa 11 Rudras. If the dieve on the horse is Usins, 'mara' can be Lord mahAdEv. Anyway, mara is masculine in Indian pantheon.

About Laima Mate, whom Latv-Lithus regard as Goddess of Fate, and Goddess of Child-birth, we have covered in blogpost 740 under ashTa lakshmis (Eight Lakshmis).

POSSIBILITIES, PROBABILITIES. साध्यासाध्य, अवकाश సాధ్యాసాధ్యాలు, అవకాశాలు

Dieve, if regarded as masculine, can be taken as Shankar mahAdEv (Lord Shiva). 'deive' or 'dieve' if regarded as feminine, can be taken as 'dEvi' (in Indian pantheon dEvi = Adi Sakti, the Mother Goddess of all the three i.e. Brahma, VishNu, and Shankar Mahadev). According to one Indian legend, Adi Shakti or dEvi asked her sons i.e. Brahma (Creator), VishNu and MahEswar Maha+Iswar to marry her. The first two refused, because it would be incestuous to marry mother. The last one Maheswara agreed to Shakti's request. Hence, the Goddess 'dEvi' is also the wife of Lord Shankar Maha dEv (Great dieve), apart from being mother of all the Three.

Subject to corrections and deletions. To continue. सशेष. ఇంకా ఉంది.

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